MLB foul ball overturned.....

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

Haven't checked in over the last week since the guys with white coats (no, not the funny farm gang) keep looking for things to test, stick and biopsy. But I saw this and y'all know that I am especially partial to this topic...plus my old nom de net was used, how could I resist?

Originally Posted by Rut

This is why I hate the "Get it Right" community that tells us that we should always get together on these kinds of plays. To me this is the ultimate why this philosophy has a lot of holes. Even if runners were not on base, you take away the chance for other things to happen. If you call a dead ball, it should be a dead ball. For the record, NF rules makes it clear if you have a foul ball called by the umpire (when the ball hits the ground), you still have a foul ball. If this happen in a HS game under NF rules, they would have broken the rules. I have no idea at this time if NF or NCAA specifically addresses this.

I guess that's just one of the reasons some of us hate you, but I'll stick to the topic.

MLB has decided that if the call can be made 'right', the crew should make every effort to do it. Has anyone considered that Angel and his crew adhere to the "I've got everything up to and including the base, you've got everything beyond."? That sounds like a whole lot of pre-games.

I saw the play and it did look like the ball glanced off the bag and our 3BU did an "Oh, F---." call. Like the uncaught third strike on AJ last year, we can debate wheteher it did or didn't all day. I prefer to focus on the mechanic. Obviously, the PU was convinced that it was improperly called and used the MLB mechanic to rectify the sitaution. They did that and it doesn't set a bad precedent. They must adhere to a set of standards that we can't appreciate.

Jim (SCB1) had it right -it is treated as umpire interference because the umpires call effectively prevented any action from ensuing beyond what actually happened. Since the ball was ruled fair and immediately dead (ala the ball striking the bag and being caught by the umpire) it was properly administered.

I don't consider applying Fed rules to MLB to be the smartest move I've ever seen. I know, I know, you weren't saying that's what should have been called, you were just showing your knowledge of the dumbest rules in organized baseball. Fed rules apply to amateur umpires who may or may not be working alone. The fact that they can be threatened, manipulated or manhandled is why rules like that are on the books at that level. You made your call and don't have three partners to back you up - tough call coach, but I can't do anything about it. Yeah, that's why I love Fed ball and the gang who thinks our job ends with their mighty call. Human fallibility be damned - I'm the UMPIRE! All the second guessing I saw of Pros, NCAA and LL umpires must be for no reason. (snicker, chuckle, guffaw)