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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 08:15am
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I saw this play. To me, this was a HORRIBLE precedent to set.

There WERE runners on the bases. The ball hit the back left corner of third base and bounded diagonally into foul ground. It was rather obvious, even before replay, but U3 gave some sort of half dead-ball, half SAFE!, with a little Incomplete Pass thrown in signal.

Based on where the ball bounded, there was no chance for an initial out - but who knows what else might have happened. To me, this was an obviously unringable bell, which was nonetheless unrung. Awful, just awful. Can't believe Manuel didn't protest, as I think it's pretty clear in OBR that you can't unring the foul bell unless it's a ball hit out of play (HR, GRD).
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Old Tue Aug 29, 2006, 02:04pm
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I saw this play. To me, this was a HORRIBLE precedent to set.

There WERE runners on the bases. The ball hit the back left corner of third base and bounded diagonally into foul ground. It was rather obvious, even before replay, but U3 gave some sort of half dead-ball, half SAFE!, with a little Incomplete Pass thrown in signal.
This is why I hate the "Get it Right" community that tells us that we should always get together on these kinds of plays. To me this is the ultimate why this philosophy has a lot of holes. Even if runners were not on base, you take away the chance for other things to happen. If you call a dead ball, it should be a dead ball. For the record, NF rules makes it clear if you have a foul ball called by the umpire (when the ball hits the ground), you still have a foul ball. If this happen in a HS game under NF rules, they would have broken the rules. I have no idea at this time if NF or NCAA specifically addresses this.

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