MLB foul ball overturned.....

[BigUmp56]

I don't know if there were other runners, Jeff. If there weren't I would agree that they did the right thing. If there were I'm not so sure there's a precedent for reversing the call of "foul" in this instance. It may very well have deprived the defense of an opportunity to get an out.


Tim.

[JRutledge]

I do not know how you can overturn a foul ball call. The defense could have still made an out and the runners could have advanced to more bases.

Oh well. They got it right I guess.

Peace

[socalblue1]

IMO the only thing the crew coud/should do (CSFP) would be to treat it like umpire int. Put BR on 1B and advance any runner forced.

Of course it IS MLB and Angel is involved ....

[mcrowder]

I saw this play. To me, this was a HORRIBLE precedent to set.

There WERE runners on the bases. The ball hit the back left corner of third base and bounded diagonally into foul ground. It was rather obvious, even before replay, but U3 gave some sort of half dead-ball, half SAFE!, with a little Incomplete Pass thrown in signal.

Based on where the ball bounded, there was no chance for an initial out - but who knows what else might have happened. To me, this was an obviously unringable bell, which was nonetheless unrung. Awful, just awful. Can't believe Manuel didn't protest, as I think it's pretty clear in OBR that you can't unring the foul bell unless it's a ball hit out of play (HR, GRD).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

I saw this play. To me, this was a HORRIBLE precedent to set.

There WERE runners on the bases. The ball hit the back left corner of third base and bounded diagonally into foul ground. It was rather obvious, even before replay, but U3 gave some sort of half dead-ball, half SAFE!, with a little Incomplete Pass thrown in signal.

This is why I hate the "Get it Right" community that tells us that we should always get together on these kinds of plays. To me this is the ultimate why this philosophy has a lot of holes. Even if runners were not on base, you take away the chance for other things to happen. If you call a dead ball, it should be a dead ball. For the record, NF rules makes it clear if you have a foul ball called by the umpire (when the ball hits the ground), you still have a foul ball. If this happen in a HS game under NF rules, they would have broken the rules. I have no idea at this time if NF or NCAA specifically addresses this.

Peace