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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 08:09am
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Are you illiterate?

The hidden ball play came after the ball was put in play and a subsequent pickoff attempt at first base.
The ball can not be put in play until the pitcher toes the rubber with it after a dead ball, and I believe the ball should be dead while they discussed anything for 25 minutes.

Read the 1st post - "play was stopped", then read the 4th post "after a 25 minute delay". You would consider the ball live during this play stoppage and allow a hidden ball trick to succeed without putting the ball in play legallly? Answer the question.

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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 08:18am
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The ball can not be put in play until the pitcher toes the rubber with it after a dead ball, and I believe the ball should be dead while they discussed a substitution for 25 minutes. You would consider the ball live during this play stoppage? Answer the question.

Read this carefully, I will spell it out for you.

After the stoppage F1 is on the rubber with the ball. PU puts the ball in play. F1 attempts a pick-off to first. F3 walks the ball back towards F1 and pretends to give it to him, then returns to his position with the ball. F1 pretends to tie his shoe. R1 wanders off the base and is tagged by F3.

It's not that hard to understand!
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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 08:25am
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Read this carefully, I will spell it out for you.

After the stoppage F1 is on the rubber with the ball. PU puts the ball in play. F1 attempts a pick-off to first. F3 walks the ball back towards F1 and pretends to give it to him, then returns to his position with the ball. F1 pretends to tie his shoe. R1 wanders off the base and is tagged by F3.

It's not that hard to understand!
Yes, I went back and re-read all the posts. The pickoff was introduced in post #21 well after the 1st and 4th posts that did not mention a pickoff. Now, what I what I don't understand is why a pickoff in LL baseball where you can't leave the base until the pitch reaches the batter.
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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 08:31am
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Yes, I went back and re-read all the posts. The pickoff was introduced in post #21 well after the 1st and 4th posts that did not mention a pickoff. Now, what I what I don't understand is why a pickoff in LL baseball where you can't leave the base until the pitch reaches the batter.
Because this was a World Series game being played somewhere other than Williamsport, which means it was Jr, Sr, or Big League where leadoffs are allowed...
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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 02:55pm
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Because this was a World Series game being played somewhere other than Williamsport, which means it was Jr, Sr, or Big League where leadoffs are allowed...
In fact, the original post mentioned it was in Bangor (Maine) which everyone knows is where they have the SENIOR Little League World Series.
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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 10:22pm
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In fact, the original post mentioned it was in Bangor (Maine) which everyone knows is where they have the SENIOR Little League World Series.
Yes, I missed this was not in Williamsport. I thought it was a regional game. There is very little little league in these parts so I would not know anything about Bangor Maine. Anyway, it makes more sense now that it was not in Williamsport.
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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 11:39pm
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Yes, I missed this was not in Williamsport. I thought it was a regional game. There is very little little league in these parts so I would not know anything about Bangor Maine. Anyway, it makes more sense now that it was not in Williamsport.
I was kidding with the "everyone knows" comment. I wouldn't expect many to know just from a passing reference to "bangor" that it was an upper division of Little League that was being discussed.
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Old Sun Aug 27, 2006, 10:27am
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Yes, I went back and re-read all the posts.
You apparently missed that this was not at Williamsport.
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