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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 04:35pm
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Who cares what a coach says to his players?
Anyone concerned about the safety of youth players should care. The issue is safety not the coach saying something to the player. Deliberately asking/telling a kid to do something that could get him severely injured or killed is unconscionable. Everyone involved should care. In my opinion the coach should be ejected and banned. Regardless i was just asking if it was against the rules.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 04:43pm
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Wow!

Gosh I can't wait until the Little League WS is over.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 07:25pm
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Gosh I can't wait until the Little League WS is over.
Gee Tim, thay haven't even started putting them on TV yet.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 11:05pm
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Gosh I can't wait until the Little League WS is over.

Agreed Tee, agreed.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 05:40pm
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Let's not go overboard......

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Anyone concerned about the safety of youth players should care. The issue is safety not the coach saying something to the player. Deliberately asking/telling a kid to do something that could get him severely injured or killed is unconscionable. Everyone involved should care. In my opinion the coach should be ejected and banned. Regardless i was just asking if it was against the rules.
Ease up some, man. We're not talking about a coach telling his players
to bat without a helmet and then take one in the cranium.
If the kid's parents don't have a problem with it, why should I ? If they
do have a problem with it,they'll handle it. Besides, you hear that crap
all the time, from players and coaches.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 08:24pm
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Ease up some, man. We're not talking about a coach telling his players
to bat without a helmet and then take one in the cranium.
If the kid's parents don't have a problem with it, why should I ? If they
do have a problem with it,they'll handle it. Besides, you hear that crap
all the time, from players and coaches.
I am sure you are correct. I am just overreacting.

Here is what the American Academy of Pediatrics has to say about the issue.

"The AAP estimates that in 1995, emergency rooms treated 162,000 baseball, softball and tee-ball injuries to children ages 5 to 14 years old. Although it is rare, children have been killed while playing baseball: between 1973 and 1995, there were 88 baseball-related deaths of children. Most (43%) of these deaths occurred when a ball hit a child in the chest. About 24% of the deaths were caused by a ball striking a child's head. There have also been reports of spine injuries to children who have slid head-first into a base."

I would hate to be the one who told one of these kids to take one for the team. I agree it happens all the time.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 08:51pm
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I am sure you are correct. I am just overreacting.

Here is what the American Academy of Pediatrics has to say about the issue.

"The AAP estimates that in 1995, emergency rooms treated 162,000 baseball, softball and tee-ball injuries to children ages 5 to 14 years old. Although it is rare, children have been killed while playing baseball: between 1973 and 1995, there were 88 baseball-related deaths of children. Most (43%) of these deaths occurred when a ball hit a child in the chest. About 24% of the deaths were caused by a ball striking a child's head. There have also been reports of spine injuries to children who have slid head-first into a base."

I would hate to be the one who told one of these kids to take one for the team. I agree it happens all the time.
Jeez o man.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 08:57pm
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I am sure you are correct. I am just overreacting.

Here is what the American Academy of Pediatrics has to say about the issue.

"The AAP estimates that in 1995, emergency rooms treated 162,000 baseball, softball and tee-ball injuries to children ages 5 to 14 years old. Although it is rare, children have been killed while playing baseball: between 1973 and 1995, there were 88 baseball-related deaths of children. Most (43%) of these deaths occurred when a ball hit a child in the chest. About 24% of the deaths were caused by a ball striking a child's head. There have also been reports of spine injuries to children who have slid head-first into a base."

I would hate to be the one who told one of these kids to take one for the team. I agree it happens all the time.
Wow, you gave stats. So we're all convinced you're right.

Obviously 4 deaths per year in the US over a period of 22 years is a tragedy, not just to the individuals involved but to society as a whole. Of course, before we submit your name for a Nobel prize, can you tell us how many of these 88 deaths over a 22 year period were a consequence of a coach yelling "take one for the team Billy!!". I'm sure the Nobel committee wil ask.

And for completeness and comparison please provide stats on the number of deaths by lightning during baseball games for this period.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 09:12pm
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Wow, you gave stats. So we're all convinced you're right.

Obviously 4 deaths per year in the US over a period of 22 years is a tragedy, not just to the individuals involved but to society as a whole. Of course, before we submit your name for a Nobel prize, can you tell us how many of these 88 deaths over a 22 year period were a consequence of a coach yelling "take one for the team Billy!!". I'm sure the Nobel committee wil ask.

And for completeness and comparison please provide stats on the number of deaths by lightning during baseball games for this period.
Well I certainly never heard anyone yell "take one for the team" while refering to a lightning bolt.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 09:40pm
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Well I certainly never heard anyone yell "take one for the team" while refering to a lightning bolt.

Ahhh, c'mon. We all know Billy's too good to take a lightning bolt for the team.

The kid paying right field's gonna do that.

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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 09:59pm
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I may talk to the BOD about this guy but IN THE GAME: I have nothing - no call.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 06:28pm
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Anyone concerned about the safety of youth players should care. The issue is safety not the coach saying something to the player. Deliberately asking/telling a kid to do something that could get him severely injured or killed is unconscionable. Everyone involved should care. In my opinion the coach should be ejected and banned. Regardless i was just asking if it was against the rules.
No. but someone will always want the umpire to do something the PARENTS and the BOD should do.
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Old Fri Jul 21, 2006, 06:56pm
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Nope. No rule that i know of ...if he gets hit by it...he goes to first. end of story
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