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Old Sat Jul 01, 2006, 11:55pm
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Brian, Brian, Brain. Just admit your team sucks. They keep putting faith in the future hall of famers Prior and Wood who cannot even get on the field. You go around every year thinking you are going to beat the Cardinals and every year they kick you in the teeth. Then you blame your manager for everything, but your GM got an extension for holding on to two huge busts and brings in players that other teams did not want or were just dumping. At least the Sox went out and won a World Series. They did not just keep faith in players that did not perform. Hell, the Sox got rid of their best player historically when he could not stay on the field.

But you always have Wrigley to hang your hat on. While the Tribune Company scalps their own tickets and dumb Cubs fans keep buying them. No wonder the Cubs suck. They have not incentive to get better.

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did i say they didnt suck this year? i dont think you'll see me saying that we do not suck this year. i admitted it before people were asking for admissions. this year the cubs suck.
also, i personally do not think we are going to beat the cardinals every time out, nor do i put everything on dusty/GM/owner/etc. its on the players. its on them to go out there and play the game and get the job done. you cant just sit on your *** and go 20 games under .500 while waiting for prior to do something with his life, or for wood to build up his depleted stamina. you cant sit and wait for derek lee to come back because hes the team powerhouse. someone needs to step up, or step out. juan pierre has been downright atrocious. in the previous absence of derek lee, any baserunner that can get on and do some base stealing would have been nice to help spark things for other hitters after him, but he couldnt do that. the bullpen could try and get hitters out every once in a while. ryan dempster could make for a decent A ball reliever with the way hes going, maybe that clown in asheville is looking for someone to join his circus. its really bad, and if you think i dont know it, then try thinking again, or in the first place. i might be a cubs fan, but because some cubs "fans" are clueless and only there for the beer, does not mean that i am.

dusty didnt throw that slider right down the pipe to pierzinski. dusty isnt out there striking out, dropping balls, leaving runners on, leaving pitches in the zone, etc. while i dont like him, and havent for a while, he isnt totally to blame for the bad baseball that his players are playing.

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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 01:09am
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I have never had the opportunity to attend a White Sox game
Dude, where the hell were you last year when the White Sox came to town??????
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 03:39am
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Very busy. I was working baseball games and helping my wife care for her aunt, who lives with us since her stroke last year.

I have actually not attended a single game at Petco yet. But since they broadcast over 140 Padres games a year on the local cable station, it's cool. We get to see all the home games except certain day games during the week, and almost all the road games except for getaway day day games at the end of road trips.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 10:07am
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Steve if you get the oppertunity to go to Petco park,go to it,its a beautiful ballpark. I went to a game when i was out there in april and laid out nicely in a great spot. I wish the redsox could build one like that,but thats another topic.


I'm not really a fan of either team so it doesnt bother me one team beat the other. I dont like ozzie but thats not a reason to hate a ballclub because of their say before think manager. I think its funny how some people go off the wall about nothing,or the fairweather fans who try to make it seem as if they are true fans.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 11:02am
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I think its funny how some people go off the wall about nothing
Are you saying you'd rather read another post about the scabs???
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 11:13am
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no,i'de rather have topics where people dont go crazy over little things.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 09:47pm
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no,i'de rather have topics where people dont go crazy over little things.
BAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAH! Then why are you wasting your time here??
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Old Mon Jul 03, 2006, 08:01am
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Are you saying you'd rather read another post about the scabs???
He might be saying, "If the original post had been by someone named 'SoxFan4Ever' we'd all respond with something like, 'Go away, Fanboy.' Why should our response be any different just because it was posted by an esteemed member?"

Full disclosure: Although I live in the chicago area, I moved here after my rooting interests were set. I casually follow both teams, and wish them both well, but it doesn't matter to me who wins any individyual game or the season series.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 11:19am
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or the fairweather fans who try to make it seem as if they are true fans.
i know, some of these white sox fans have been terrible...
then again, some cubs fans are losing it.

has anyone ever noticed that so many sox fans concern themselves with the troubles of the cubs before the successes of the sox? i know they do not represent all sox fans, but ive really never seen a team following in any sport that concerns themselves more with other teams

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Old Mon Jul 03, 2006, 12:59pm
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has anyone ever noticed that so many sox fans concern themselves with the troubles of the cubs before the successes of the sox? i know they do not represent all sox fans, but ive really never seen a team following in any sport that concerns themselves more with other teams
Extremely true (obviously not for every Sox fan, but it's very widespread in my experience) - I lived there for 8 years. Reeks of inferiority complex.

That being said, I think those fans could lose the inferiority part. They have, and have had, a better team now for the past 3 years, and usually win, if not dominate, the cross-town series.
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Old Mon Jul 03, 2006, 01:41pm
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has anyone ever noticed that so many sox fans concern themselves with the troubles of the cubs before the successes of the sox? i know they do not represent all sox fans, but ive really never seen a team following in any sport that concerns themselves more with other teams
If you recall last October after winning the series I said that the Sox were no longer the second team in the second city anymore and the Cub fans jumped all over that. That was said first and THEN I mentioned the troubles of the Cubs. So, sorry dude you're wrong.

With that being said, honestly I'd like to see the Cubs and the Sox in the "El" series. Chicago baseball fans have suffered for a very long time. In my honest opinion the fight between AJ and Barrett was the best thing that could happen for the cross-town series. I love it (the series) and said earlier it's the only thing I love about interleague play. Remember that one game they used to play before interleague play? Maybe one regular starter played on each team and the rest was made up of AAA players. It was a joke!

One more thing. Let me make this analogy. If you were to go to a restaurant and received poor service and substandard food you may go again and give them a second chance or you may never go there again and you may even speak to the owner about your experience. You can still be a fan of eating out but you choose to send a message to the owner and when a major change has taken place (different owners, new menu, etc.) you will go back but not until then.

Cub fans. Stop going to the games. You can call the score as much as you want to complain but the Tribune won't get your true feelings until you stop helping them pay the players salaries. You always say we're not true fans because we don't stick with the team through the good and the bad. But what did that "disloyalty" get us? In July of last year I went to a single-A game in Charleston, SC. I was wearing a White Sox hat. A guy behind me said "Are you really a Sox fan?" I turned around and said, "No one can pretend to be a Sox fan. They've sucked for so long."

Now here's a thought. Maybe most of those fans at the games aren't really true Cub fans. Maybe most of the fans filling the seats are there for the atmosphere, for the ambiance that is Wrigley. If that's true then I feel for you. Maybe the best thing that could happen to the Cubs is the demolition of Wrigley. Honestly, I'd hate to see that happen because I wish old Comiskey was still there. I remember in 1991 we sat in right field and said to each other, "Babe Ruth once stood right there." I love this game they call baseball. That's why I still hang around and umpire.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 05:29pm
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Steve if you get the oppertunity to go to Petco park,go to it,its a beautiful ballpark. I went to a game when i was out there in april and laid out nicely in a great spot.
I've been all around the outside of the ball park, from the first groundbreaking up until its completion, I've just never been inside the finished product. I would really like to go to a game soon, but I like going with my wife, who really likes the Padres too. It's just difficult to get away to do anything anymore because of having to care for her elderly, disabled aunt 24/7.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 09:06pm
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petco does look like a good ball park, something i'd like to check out sometime. hopefully you get some time to check it out, steve.
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Old Mon Jul 03, 2006, 01:08am
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petco does look like a good ball park, something i'd like to check out sometime. hopefully you get some time to check it out, steve.
Actually, I've led a pretty deprived (or depraved, depending on who you ask) life, and I've only seen MLB games at Qualcomm Stadium and Yuma, Arizona (when the Pads used to have Spring Training there). I have been to many games at each of these parks over the years. And at least I got to work a couple of games at Qualcomm Stadium, so that was a thrill.

I'm sure I'll get to Petco eventually. Maybe later this year if I can sneak away.
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