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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:40am
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I'm sure someone will be along shortly to show us the error of our ways in giving rulings. He'll no doubt claim that a batted ball that hits the hands first is a live ball in play if it's caught by a second fielder on a deflection over the grandstands.


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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:50am
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Now Tim, let's play nice now!
Like that's going to make a difference. I've tried before, only to have it thrown back in my face.


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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 12:06pm
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Tim - to be accurate wouldn't we want to explain it as a ball DEFLECTING into fair territory, not a ball "hit" into fair territory. This is not nit-picking (i don't think), it's more like the accuracy of a "foul tip" existing only if it's caught. And there is a big difference between a hit (batted) ball and a hit batsmen.

Otherwise, nice discussion here.
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 12:20pm
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Tim - to be accurate wouldn't we want to explain it as a ball DEFLECTING into fair territory, not a ball "hit" into fair territory. This is not nit-picking (i don't think), it's more like the accuracy of a "foul tip" existing only if it's caught. And there is a big difference between a hit (batted) ball and a hit batsmen.

Otherwise, nice discussion here.

I see what you mean
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 01:03pm
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Tim - to be accurate wouldn't we want to explain it as a ball DEFLECTING into fair territory, not a ball "hit" into fair territory. This is not nit-picking (i don't think), it's more like the accuracy of a "foul tip" existing only if it's caught. And there is a big difference between a hit (batted) ball and a hit batsmen.

Otherwise, nice discussion here.
I'm not sure if my sarcasm was lost on you, or yours on me.


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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 01:05pm
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I didn't write mine with any sarcasm so maybe i missed yours.
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 01:13pm
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I didn't write mine with any sarcasm so maybe i missed yours.

I see, you were referring to what I said in post #5. My bad, I should have said deflected to be more precise.


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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 01:14pm
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We can't go giving that certain someone the idea that a ball bounding off a batter's hands into fair territory is a base hit!
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 01:09pm
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I'm not sure if my sarcasm was lost on you, or yours on me.


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Tim,

I didn't think he was being sarcastic. I believe he was referring to your use of the word "hit" in your initial post on this thread - which might lead a neophyte to believe that the ball had been "batted" - rather than "deflecting" off the batter before ending up in fair territory.

I don't believe he was suggesting you were unaware of this distinction (nor am I), but rather there might be a better way to express your comment in a more "technically correct" way.

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