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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 08:24am
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I like the irony of this statement:

"I thought the strike was over," Mikulik told the Lexington Herald-Leader. "When will the real umpires show up? That's what I want to know. Because that was an abortion. That was bad. I just wish the umpire's association would train their young men to have a personality. I could get two mannequins at Sears and umpire better than what I saw this whole series.
The whole series was awful."





...did the AMLU keep Asheville in the dark an extra week or so?

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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 09:18am
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If the replacement umps were there, this surely would not have happened. These AMLU guys just don't know how to handle these kinds of situations.
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 10:52am
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PDX, your axe grinding doesnt do you well here, considering the thread...soapbox somewhere else
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 12:12pm
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Just returning the second guessing favor to the AMLU guys. No soapbox. I KNOW what I am about. I got about another month and a half of poking fun at these idiots to settle the score!

Of course, when I did PCL games, we didn't have anything close to something like this happen. In fact, in the 30 or so games in Portland, there were only 2 ejections, and they were the normal garden variety types.

I am facinated by the fact that the AMLU guys recieve so little respect from managers and players! The way they (AMLU umpires) put it while replacements were working, there should be NO problems right now!!! I just don't understand why there are SO many stories in such a short amount of time about how these guys are blowing calls, and not be very "good" in a series and what not.
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 01:43pm
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I must say I agree with PDX, WWTB, and the rest of the guys on this side of the debate. For weeks all we heard was how great the AMLU umpires are, and how when they come back everything will be just Jim Dandy, and the scabs don't have any game management skills. Now we see that the managers and players are no more enamoured with the regular guys than they were with the replacements. Everything is not rosy peachy keen as advertised, and the games are not running smooth as silk upon the return of the minor league umpires.

Anybody who doesn't see the irony in this is not looking at it without bias.
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 01:48pm
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Cool

hmmmmmmmmm
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 01:56pm
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Managers & Players will complain

Managers and players will complain, that's what they do.

What bothered me most about the AMLU's publicizing of these types of incidents when the replacment umpires were doing the games was their suggestion that it would not happen if they were working. Everyone with half a brain knows these incidents happen no matter who the umpires are or how good they are.

The AMLU made a huge deal over the manager pulling his team off the field in disgust. They didn't mention that he was behind 11-5 or that the opposing team had batted around twice on his pitcher at the time he pulled his players off the field for their "safety." Think he would have pulled his team off the field leading 11-5? Heck no.

There is some healing that needs to go on in the umpire community and the AMLU needs to take the lead in that. It would help if their members stopped circulating a blacklist to try to prevent amateur guys from getting work.
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Old Wed Jun 28, 2006, 05:43pm
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I must say I agree with PDX, WWTB, and the rest of the guys on this side of the debate. For weeks all we heard was how great the AMLU umpires are, and how when they come back everything will be just Jim Dandy, and the scabs don't have any game management skills. Now we see that the managers and players are no more enamoured with the regular guys than they were with the replacements. Everything is not rosy peachy keen as advertised, and the games are not running smooth as silk upon the return of the minor league umpires.

Anybody who doesn't see the irony in this is not looking at it without bias.
Or brains.
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 01:56pm
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Off topic and irrelevant to the conversation, but other than that, a ridiculous analogy.

Referring to PWL's post (for clarification)
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 02:14pm
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Man you guys are bitter. You worked the games, you were used as a pawn and now you want to try to explain away your actions. Did you expect that everyone was going to pat you on the back when the strike was on? Many of you only worked at one site the entire time and you were let go after the strike was over. Get over it already.

I do not believe that many amateur umpires would have been as calm and cool as these guys. These union guys handled themselves perfectly.

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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 11:21am
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Just returning the second guessing favor to the AMLU guys. No soapbox. I KNOW what I am about. I got about another month and a half of poking fun at these idiots to settle the score!

I'll guess what your all about in one guess.......clown act?

Of course, when I did PCL games, we didn't have anything close to something like this happen. In fact, in the 30 or so games in Portland, there were only 2 ejections, and they were the normal garden variety types.

Of course...like an arrogent clown act

I am facinated by the fact that the AMLU guys recieve so little respect from managers and players! The way they (AMLU umpires) put it while replacements were working, there should be NO problems right now!!! I just don't understand why there are SO many stories in such a short amount of time about how these guys are blowing calls, and not be very "good" in a series and what not.
Because Rats are Rats ..they would ***** if Doug Harvey was out there....
My question to you is, if your the hot ticket..then why aren't you working pro ball full time? I'm sure your skill set would demand due respect from managers and players.....it's sad that baseball is missing out on your true talents..the Walter Mitty of MLB....


your turn....

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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 10:41am
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I like the irony of this statement:

"I thought the strike was over," Mikulik told the Lexington Herald-Leader. "When will the real umpires show up? That's what I want to know. Because that was an abortion. That was bad. I just wish the umpire's association would train their young men to have a personality. I could get two mannequins at Sears and umpire better than what I saw this whole series.
The whole series was awful."





...did the AMLU keep Asheville in the dark an extra week or so?
I think he owes an apology to everyone who has ever had an abortion...
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Old Mon Jun 26, 2006, 10:05pm
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I think Mikulik was hoping that the umpires would argue back and give as good as he did. I believe that this is what prompted his "Sears mannequin" remark and the association training remark, because these two umpires have the personalities of a bag of rocks.

Seven years as a single A manager? Where does he think he's going? That's probably why he goes ballistic, because he knows his days are numbered.
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