Another classy move by the AMLU

[LMan]

Originally Posted by BlueLawyer

This thread will last about another 5 posts before it is locked.

Wrong.....

[BenedictArnold]

I can see why calling someone a SCAB would be upsetting and inflamatory. But we are umpires and we have been called names several times before. I guess the difference is that each time someone calls an umpire horrible, that umpire knows that they are not horrible in their own head. So, when someone calls them a SCAB, that umpire knows deep in their own mind that that is exactly what they are. I have said it before...the truth hurts. The hardest arguments I have ever been involved in have dealt with me missing a call and having to defend it. This is no different. These SCAB umpires are in a position where they try to defend their decision to work. They can't compete with the AMLU guys in performance, so they undercut the end result of the dispute. Big suprise there, that is all they have left.

Again, like I said before, every SCAB umpire can sit at home and know that along with being a SCAB they were also baseball's third choice for working their games. And don't go fooling yourself saying that you did a noble thing because little Johnny at the concession stand needs a job too. These teams told their coaches to be ready to go out there and call games from behind the mound. The games would have been played regardless.

So, along with being a SCAB and baseball's third choice, you also know that you are one step ahead of a coach calling pitches and plays from behind the mound.

This is seriously the easiest argument I have ever been in. You guys remain pathetic and you will forever live in the armpit of baseball. Just remember to tell the truth when you give your resume. You are not a professional umpire in the minor leagues unless you went to school, got selected, and earned a job. Otherwise you are an independent league umpire, amateur umpire, or (as unfortuante as it is that this term hurts) a SCAB.

I would end this with something like "Peace" but I know my audience here. There is nothing peaceful about any of these guys defending the SCABS. They are vindictive and demeaning. So take your cheap shots at me, but remember the type of umpire you are talking about. I didn't sit back and talk about going to umpire school. I am not sitting here saying that if I went years ago, I would be somewhere else. I went to school. I got a job. I worked for many years and earned my way to AAA. I was a crew chief in both AA and AAA. I know what I am talking about and I got my answer from baseball. I earned that answer. And for the record, when someone asks me about my umpiring, I tell them that I am a former professional umpire. Not a current one. At the present time, I am an amateur umpire. I am working a few games here and there, but I am no longer being supervised by MLB or MILB umpire supervisors. And no SCUMP, the independent league supervisors don't count. They are not going to promote you if you perform well. At most they will invite you back because you do a decent job. It is not the same as MLB or MILB.

Until you work under that pressure and perform well, you won't know what I am talking about. And that is why these SCABS are so clueless. You believe you did the job just as the AMLU guys. But, you didn't travel for six months away from home, you didn't change hotels and ballparks every 3-4 days. You didn't have the players and managers treat you as equals. They knew what you were and they knew they had no choice but the deal with it. But read between the lines. No one is asking that you guys come back. You were a joke to baseball because you believed them when they said you were an asset to the game. You were nothing but a bandaid. Now accept that and forever know that you took advantage of a group of guys that fought against baseball. Just as quick as you slipped through the back door, the AMLU guys through their performance have thrown your asses out the front door. The truth hurts!

Now take your shots boys...I am a big boy and I can take it!

[SanDiegoSteve]

I find it funny that this guy can rip people for taking games that were refused by AMLU members, so that regular folks could take in a game, but I can't call him what he is.

It's okay to call people scabs because they don't respect unions, which is their God-given right, but I'm not permitted to call this person a demeaning name as well. Double standard here.

He ended his post with a challenge to take shots at him, but I guess the word "scab" is acceptable, but *** is not.

I loved it when Reagan forced the Air Traffic Controllers back to work. A great day in American history!

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I find it funny that this guy can rip people for taking games that were refused by AMLU members, so that regular folks could take in a game, but I can't call him what he is.

It's okay to call people scabs because they don't respect unions, which is their God-given right, but I'm not permitted to call this person a demeaning name as well. Double standard here.

He ended his post with a challenge to take shots at him, but I guess the word "scab" is acceptable, but *** is not.

I loved it when Reagan forced the Air Traffic Controllers back to work. A great day in American history!

Steve,

No way to compare the two. Federal regulation prohibited the ATC strike because it put the public at risk (Same reason why law enforcement & fire fighter may not strike).

As far as BA's post: It's not a double standard at all. The fill-in umpires EARNED the title SCAB (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: SCAB is a slang term for a strike-breaker).

Umpires that took games during the strike KNEW what they were doing. Regardless of the reason one did these games, he/she earned the title. Live with it - you got exactly what you asked for.

Do I agree with everything that the AMLU &/or supporters have done or have been accused of doing? No, but that's simply my opionion. However, SCABS earned the title, so they have zero room to complain when names &/or pictures of them appearing in a public venue are posted.

So far as mistakes that may have been made: Any person improperly listed is free to PM me here. I can assure you that every reasonable effort will be made to correct mistakes (Hickman is OFF the list). PDX - we can fix your name too ....

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

From the fingertips of socalblue1:

As far as BA's post: It's not a double standard at all. The fill-in umpires EARNED the title SCAB (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: SCAB is a slang term for a strike-breaker).

Oh, okay...so I can use the words nigger, kike, spic, wop, dago, sheeny, dyke and fag with impunity? After all, those are slang terms for those people.

By the way, they didn't break the strike. They simply replaced the umpires that refused to work. The strike still went on.

Umpires that took games during the strike KNEW what they were doing. Regardless of the reason one did these games, he/she earned the title. Live with it - you got exactly what you asked for.

Jim, you are treading a slippery slope. One could say that the AMLU gang got exactly what they deserved.

Do I agree with everything that the AMLU &/or supporters have done or have been accused of doing? No, but that's simply my opionion. However, SCABS earned the title, so they have zero room to complain when names &/or pictures of them appearing in a public venue are posted.

Okay...so I propose we begin a website for Associate AMLU members and part time Minor League umpires. We can post their photos (I assure you they won't be flattering.) and exploits. We can defame them and ridciule their actions and behaviors. The juicy photos of coach/player flare-ups will make great fodder for a rolling billboard on the masthead. Maybe we can dig up some personal background info and publish that too.

What? You don't like that idea. After all, when the replacement umpires (term used by MiLB, MLB and PBUC) agreed to work those contests, they never signed a waiver of rights. One would think that you never heard of slander and libel suits. If you think it's alright to defame an ordinary worker then you should have no problem telling us where we can find you gainfully employed.

So far as mistakes that may have been made: Any person improperly listed is free to PM me here. I can assure you that every reasonable effort will be made to correct mistakes (Hickman is OFF the list). PDX - we can fix your name too...

The word "reasonable" should never make it into any AMLU related spin. When they decided to publish the names, addresses and photographs of those that worked in their stead, they made a tremendous mistake. The wrath of the amateur umpire is greater than that of 220 prima donas. Since the average stay in the PBUC system is seven years, those inflated egos will be brought down to earth soon. They will join the ranks of those who umpire for the joy of the game (the paycheck, exercise and occassional MILF in the stands too). Former MiLB umpires worked as replacements and were just as qualified. What did they do to deserve the defamation? They worked games that the AMLU guys said they didn't want anymore. When I turn back college games to my league or assignor, I don't get to ridicule my replacement. Be a man and admit that.

[SanDiegoSteve]

WWTB,

You left out bohunks, eggheads, fudgecicles, micks, frogs and hi-slants.

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

Yes, there were many more names that I could have used, but I figured that the point was made. Just because a few people enjoy using the word 'nigger' doesn't make it acceptable. The AMLU and some of their followers are using the word 'scab' in the same way. Enlightened souls choose to use the term 'replacement umpires' since that is exactly what they were - they replaced the umpires who refused the assignments.

Some people still don't get it...umpires don't like being called names.

[SCUMP]

B Arnold....thank you for just being you. I feel enlightened every time I read your post.

In the future I hope to mold myself into a stud muffin like you!!!!

until then I will simply be just a scaba daba doo..................................

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by SCUMP

until then I will simply be just a scaba daba doo..................................

SCUMP-
Although I disagree with your stance on this issue, I have to admit, when I see some of your 1-liners... LMAO!

[SCUMP]

CTBLU40....thats fair. I can surely understand why you and I see things differently and I respect that. Good luck between the lines. peace

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I loved it when Reagan forced the Air Traffic Controllers back to work. A great day in American history!

Forced them back to work??? Hell, he fired them all! A great decision, too.

[NIump50]

Originally Posted by BenedictArnold

Again, like I said before, every SCAB umpire can sit at home and know that along with being a SCAB they were also baseball's third choice for working their games.

Some kid named Marmol was called up from the minors last week and pitched for the Cubs.
He was at least the 4th choice.
I believe the Cubs would have preferred Wood, Prior or Wade instead, but for various reasons they were not available.
I think he allowed 1 run in 6 innings. Not bad. I think everyone involved would have been happy if choices 1 thru 3 had performed just as well.
Marmol certainly wasn't complaining, even though he knew he was at best the 4th choice.
First choice or third choice the replacements made the list, made their mark, made their point.

[BlueLawyer]

Originally Posted by LMan

Wrong.....

Neither the first nor the last time.

Then again, I wasn't good enough . . . oh never mind . . .

Strikes and outs!

[LMan]

Originally Posted by BlueLawyer

Neither the first nor the last time.

Then again, I wasn't good enough . . . oh never mind . . .

Strikes and outs!

Eh, just an observation. I would not have taken your bet at that time, either.

I'm surprised that the mods don't just set the software to 'delete' every time the letters A-M-L-U are typed

[GerryB]

Yeah, this thread should end...but why?

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...41/1007/SPORTS