Strike zone

[Rich]

Originally Posted by buckweat

Please have patience. I don’t post here often and don’t wanna offend anyone.

What I understand you to be saying is, the plate has no relevance to anything other than to determine the width. I must admit, I’d never thought of it that way, so I’d like to ask a question to see if I’m really understanding what you’re saying.

Its not likely, but it is possible for a batter to put his back foot on the line, and never stand where he’s even with any part of the plate by staying within that 27.5” behind the plate. It sounds like what you’re saying is, that’s where the pitches should be called. Am I understanding what you’re saying correctly?

As for a ball “falling” into the zone, I can’t argue that one if you believe the “zone” only has 2 dimensions.

Also, I have to admit that I was thinking more along the lines of the way MLB sees the zone, not the way LL’rs(generic) see it.

If the plate was a pane of glass, the way the catcher caught the ball would have no bearing whatsoever in the calling of strikes and slow-breaking curveballs could hit the knees at the front of the plate and be caught ankle high for a strike.

Neither of these is reality in any real level of baseball.

[buckweat]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

If the plate was a pane of glass, the way the catcher caught the ball would have no bearing whatsoever in the calling of strikes and slow-breaking curveballs could hit the knees at the front of the plate and be caught ankle high for a strike.

Neither of these is reality in any real level of baseball.

Is it NOT a reality because the rules say its not, because human beings aren’t capable of calling a pitch by the rules, or because there’s more pressure from what people would like the game to be than from what the game is?

Personally, I don’t really care a whole lot how pitches are called, as long as its by the rules. I believe that sooner or later pitches will be called electronically, and one of two things will happen. The game will be better for it, or the game will be worse.

If the game is better for it, YOAHOO! If the game is worse, change the rules! No rule in baseball is sacrosanct. What a strike is and what the strike zone is have both changed many times over the years, and there’s no reason to expect it will never change again.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by buckweat

Is it NOT a reality because the rules say its not, because human beings aren’t capable of calling a pitch by the rules, or because there’s more pressure from what people would like the game to be than from what the game is?

Let it go, Rich. Its tiring to explain this over and over, aint it?


buck, when you can appreciate what Rich is saying, you will be able to progress from where you are now to the level you want to be.

[buckweat]

Originally Posted by LMan

Let it go, Rich. Its tiring to explain this over and over, aint it?


buck, when you can appreciate what Rich is saying, you will be able to progress from where you are now to the level you want to be.

LMan,

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Rich was saying something about a pane of glass which is not something I ever said other than in quoting someone else.

In fact, I don’t know what he said that I’d disagree with, so I haven’t got a clue as to why you’d think I don’t appreciate what he’s saying.

I don’t need to progress from any level to the next in my thinking because I understand the difference in what the rules say, what is in fact going to be called, and why the two will never completely agree.

I have no problem at all with how balls and strikes are called, but I do think it would help a lot more people understand the game if they really did understand the difference between theory and reality.

There are a lot of folks who think they understand the rules, the game, and why things happen as they do, but its very seldom they really do. I don’t see a problem with trying to get people to understand that.

I haven’t knocked anyone for the way they think about this subject and don’t see any reason to start now.

[NIump50]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

If the plate was a pane of glass, the way the catcher caught the ball would have no bearing whatsoever in the calling of strikes and slow-breaking curveballs could hit the knees at the front of the plate and be caught ankle high for a strike.

Neither of these is reality in any real level of baseball.

In my world, if a pitch is knee high at the front of the plate it's a strike.
Under normal circumstances I have a real hard time seeing a strike and calling a ball. I prefer the other way around.
But then my wife has accused me more than once of not living in reality.