Legal play or Illegal

[NIump50]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Tim:

What you're describing is a perfectly legal play provided the pitcher doesn't committ a balk when he feints the throw. This play was made famous by the University of Miami baseball team and is now known as the "Miami Play."



Tim.

I've seen the play where F4 or F6 are pretending to attempt a play on the ball. It can be dangerously close to being interpreted as a fake tag if their faking is too close to the bag.
Fake tag in Fed. is a whole new issue.

[Huskerblue]

Hidden ball trick falls into that category also.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by Huskerblue

Hidden ball trick falls into that category also.

As does the "skunk in the outfield."


Tim.

[NIump50]

Originally Posted by Huskerblue

Hidden ball trick falls into that category also.

The step to 3rd and throw to first play for me is the most bush and
What do these coaches think they're doing teaching their catchers to fake to second and throw to 3rd?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by NIump50

The step to 3rd and throw to first play for me is the most bush

you must be kidding. This is attempted at least once every game or so in America, and works ~ 0.00000001 percent of the time What is 'bush' about this?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LMan

you must be kidding. This is attempted at least once every game or so in America, and works ~ 0.00000001 percent of the time What is 'bush' about this?

NIUmp was being sarcastic -- the Miami play is being described as "bush" but it's not a lot different from the 3rd-1st move.

A couple of people need to upgrade their humor plug-in.

[DG]

From the University of Miami's baseball web site; a poll was done to determine the top 10 memories in Miami baseball history. Number 1, with 20% of the vote was what has become known as "The Miami Play".

"Known as the trickiest play in College World Series history, the Phantom Pick-off Play helped the Hurricanes defeat Wichita State and ultimately claim the 1982 College World Series championship."

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NIUmp was being sarcastic -- the Miami play is being described as "bush" but it's not a lot different from the 3rd-1st move.

A couple of people need to upgrade their humor plug-in.

Oh, it was a joke!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I get it now.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A couple of people need to upgrade their humor plug-in.

I will upgrade as soon as some others upgrade their smiley selections

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by NIump50

The step to 3rd and throw to first play for me is the most bush and
What do these coaches think they're doing teaching their catchers to fake to second and throw to 3rd?

If it were a bush play, they would quit trying to pull it off in the majors, don't you think? Tedious and boring to the umpire, yes. Bush, nah, not a good description.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by NIump50

I've seen the play where F4 or F6 are pretending to attempt a play on the ball. It can be dangerously close to being interpreted as a fake tag if their faking is too close to the bag.
Fake tag in Fed. is a whole new issue.

FYI - A fake tag is also considered obstruction in Little League.


Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by NIump50

I've seen the play where F4 or F6 are pretending to attempt a play on the ball. It can be dangerously close to being interpreted as a fake tag if their faking is too close to the bag.
Fake tag in Fed. is a whole new issue.

F4 and F6 pretending to turn a double play when it's really a fly ball to the outfield in order to fake out the runner is a perfectly acceptable deception, and forces the runner to keep his head in the game. Now, if they do fake a tag, and induce the runner to slide, then we have a problem. Now they have indeed obstructed in FED, LL, and other modified OBR rule sets. In strict OBR it's just part of the game, but most youth ball is safety oriented.