Devil Rays prospect throws bat at plate umpire

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

I'm glad to see that the rational amongst this board understand that this player's behavior is never warranted! As I wrote earlier, it doesn't matter what the umpire did or did not say/do. This clown threw a bat at the umpire and he will be punished acordingly. In my eyes, it won't be severe enough, but that is an issue for another thread.

Originally Posted by J.Rutledge

Please let us not compare sports to other occupations. No one goes around yelling at authority figures because a situation does not go their way in real life. Also sports is about the only place where it is acceptable for people to yell at anyone and call them all kinds of names or heckle them because they are with another company (team) or by customers (fans). Also no one said it was acceptable to throw a bat at someone.

I guess that Jeff doesn't have a relative who is in law enforcement.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

I guess that Jeff doesn't have a relative who is in law enforcement.

Why would I want a relative to cover up for fellow workers when they shoot innocent people in the back. Oh I forgot, he had a gun.

Peace

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why would I want a relative to cover up for fellow workers when they shoot innocent people in the back. Oh I forgot, he had a gun.

Peace

Nice. Lovely painting with a broad brush.........

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Nice. Lovely painting with a broad brush.........

Tell this to the Chicago Police Department that had an entire unit falsely accuse people of crimes, beat suspects (many where innocent) and intimidate suspects into confessions. The Governor at the time had to commute death penalty sentences or give pardons because this unit put so many poor individuals in prison for crimes they did not commit.

Then yesterday a young man is shot in the face by police and he had no clothes on or gun on him in after the police were called to his house.

If you do not want to be brushed or stereotyped, stop stereotyping others based on what they look like and what community they live in.

Peace

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why would I want a relative to cover up for fellow workers when they shoot innocent people in the back. Oh I forgot, he had a gun.

Peace

Ahhhh, nothing like cop-hating to increase your credibility with normal people-We all respect cop-haters.

[tiger49]

I don't care who you are (soon to be a star- Young)or what you are doing (replacement ump) but no human being should do this to another.

http://youtube.com/watch_fullscreen?...0ump%204/26/06

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Ahhhh, nothing like cop-hating to increase your credibility with normal people-We all respect cop-haters.

Ahhhh another post from the guy that thinks anything said on a website is tragic. One of these days you will realize that anyone looking for credibility here must not have a lot with the people they see every day.

Peace

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Ahhhh blah blah blah...I hate Cops...blah blah blah

The fact that you are a cop hater makes your usual inane blather that much more impossible to stomach.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

The fact that you are a cop hater makes your usual inane blather that much more impossible to stomach.

If you consider what I said as being a "cop hater" (your words not mine) then you either do not ever watch the news or read anything about police behavior by people that have been directly affected by police interactions. It is also clear you do not talk to people off the internet, outside of your community or talk to people that do not look like you regardless of if they are middle class, poor or come from privileged backgrounds. If you did talk to people I just mentioned, you might find that a lot of people are not supportive of every action by police officers or police administration.

I almost forgot you are the same person that thought a common term used in union disputes was offensive. Why should I be surprised by what you are outraged by now?

Peace

[BellevueUMp]

Venturing forth on this one, here are my random thoughts:

Throwing the bat & hitting the umpire was inexcusable, contemptible, unforgivable, (insert negative adverb/adverbs of choice here). Based solely on what I’ve read in this thread, the player has what I’d describe as a significant history of this behavior. I believe those involved in determining the disciplinary action should throw not just the book, but the entire law library aw him, although I know that won’t realistically happen.

After reading the posting that mentioned Mass. assault law (I believe it’s on the second or third page), I wonder what the manager’s reaction would have been if he’d been told his player would be leaving the stadium in a police cruiser instead of the team bus?

The umpire is in need of some good advocacy in this situation, which would otherwise be provided by the umpire’s union. However, the umpire involved was involved because he was working as a replacement during a strike by union umpires. Can’t help but find the dichotomy interesting. Also, I think the union could probably lend some measure of support to the guy without compromising their position or looking weak.

Before continuing, please press and hold the “Suspension of Disbelief” button.

If no umpires had crossed the picket line, I don’t think the incident would have happened because I don’t think the games would have gone on. If coaches or managers had been put behind the plate for the games (and therefore struck by the thrown bat in this game), there would have been a bench-clearing brawl for the record books or some serious “wall-to-wall counseling” in the locker room afterward.

Okay, now back to reality. I think the resolution on this issue is going to swing to one extreme or another. Either that the player will get off lightly on this one and go on to a big-money, big-league career or he’ll be labeled as a cancer to any team who signs him and end up ignored by the majors.

Just my opinion, thanks for the chance to say my bit.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you consider that blah blah blha cops are bad...blah blah blah I hate Cops Blah Blah Blah PEACE

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[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Ahhhh another post from the guy that thinks anything said on a website is tragic. One of these days you will realize that anyone looking for credibility here must not have a lot with the people they see every day.

Peace

Why would something tragic or stupid said on a web-site be any less tragic when said in person? They still express the same opinion. The only difference is you can't hide behind a verbal comment like you can hide behind one that's been made in the form of a post.


Tim.