Devil Rays prospect throws bat at plate umpire

[ToGreySt]

after seing this video, I would vote to lifetime ban his a$$. I had no idea it was this bad. can any of the pro-union people on this board honestly say that this guy got what he deserved? He got hit in the chest with a bat, that was thrown at him from over 20 feet away. If this happend on the street, young would be facing criminal charges.

lifetime ban, 1 strike and you're out

Joe

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ToGreySt

after seing this video, I would vote to lifetime ban his a$$. I had no idea it was this bad. can any of the pro-union people on this board honestly say that this guy got what he deserved? He got hit in the chest with a bat, that was thrown at him from over 20 feet away. If this happend on the street, young would be facing criminal charges.

lifetime ban, 1 strike and you're out

Joe

I do not think anyone has said that a player does not deserve to be suspended. The fact that this incident happen to an umpire and the fact the reality this umpire might not have been properly trained in are two separate issues.

I also do not agree with a lifetime ban. I can see this player being suspended the entire season but that is not going to happen either. I think anywhere from 30-50 would not upset me. This is also not my decision.

Peace

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think anyone has said that a player does not deserve to be suspended. The fact that this incident happen to an umpire and the fact the reality this umpire might not have been properly trained in are two separate issues.

I also do not agree with a lifetime ban. I can see this player being suspended the entire season but that is not going to happen either. I think anywhere from 30-50 would not upset me. This is also not my decision.

Peace

What??? Did you actually think before you wrote that second sentence?

It hurt my head so much that I asked the four year old down the street to translate it. He says that you are implying that this umpire may not have been adequately trained how to prepare himself for being hit by a thrown bat. Is that what you meant? No, his younger sister said that you may have meant that he wasn't properly trained to officiate that game, although the video clearly shows he handled it exactly as the 'real' guys would have. Did you mean that?

You couldn't possibly have thought that he wasn't capable of working that level of ball since D1 umpires and ex-Minor Leaguers have been working that park since the season began. Watch more than the fifteen second clip and you'll see a pro at work.

By the way, the Baseball America article points out the lunacy of the AMLU justifying their cause through this incident. "If a replacement umpire hadn't been there, this wouldn't have happened." Right...

Read Young's apology on ESPN.com and you'll see that he knows (has been told!) that his actions were reckless. His history of acting like a horse's *** make him the perfect poster child for the AMLU - only not the way they would prefer. I guess that naming the umpire to the AP and saying that he probably brought it on himself are their way of supporting their brother umpires. Chalk this up as another blown call by the union and that pinhead IL crew chief (I won't name him).

[rpumpire]

Why isn't anybody talking about criminal charges? In Massachusetts, it would be considered assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, a felony!

[Dave Reed]

Here's better quality video that shows the actual pitch. The announcer suggests that Young may have thought the pitch was high, but I suppose that he thought it was outside. It couldn't have been a real bad pitch; in fact he may have been called out on his checked swing. To my eye, things look fairly calm until Young appears to be saying something to the umpire as he walks toward the first base dugout, and the ejection follows emphatically. I'm hard pressed to see anything obviously wrong with the umpire's call or handling of the situation.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/index.jsp

[tmp44]

Now that we have the entire clip I can just see that some people on here are going to say how the pitch was outside, that only a scab umpire would have blown a call like that, and therefore deserved what he got....please people prove me wrong

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Here's better quality video that shows the actual pitch. The announcer suggests that Young may have thought the pitch was high, but I suppose that he thought it was outside. It couldn't have been a real bad pitch; in fact he may have been called out on his checked swing. To my eye, things look fairly calm until Young appears to be saying something to the umpire as he walks toward the first base dugout, and the ejection follows emphatically. I'm hard pressed to see anything obviously wrong with the umpire's call or handling of the situation.http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/index.jsp

According to Peter Gammons, BJ Upton, "the runner who held at first", lit into Young after the game in the clubhouse. Upton is the son of an ACC basketball official and I'm sure the vision of a sports official being assaulted by a flying object really shook him.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ToGreySt

after seing this video, I would vote to lifetime ban his a$$. I had no idea it was this bad. can any of the pro-union people on this board honestly say that this guy got what he deserved? He got hit in the chest with a bat, that was thrown at him from over 20 feet away. If this happend on the street, young would be facing criminal charges.

lifetime ban, 1 strike and you're out

Joe

My God. I hadn't seen the video until now and thought it was just a little flick of the bat. If that had hit him in the face, it could've knocked him out.

I mean, this quote from the article:

Originally Posted by Some moron rat out of touch with reality

"It wasn't violent, and I don't feel it was meant to hit him," he said.

I'd hate to see it if it WAS violent and it DID mean to hit him.

Oh, and this:

Originally Posted by What this guy's really like

In Double-A ball last year, Young was suspended for three games by the Southern League for bumping the chest of plate umpire Jeff Latter.

So either the AMLU guy is an idiot or Latter isn't "professionally trained" cause goodness knows that a "professionally trained" umpire would've handled this situation differently. Maybe the AMLU guy's just a professionally trained idiot.

And to me, it looked like a routine, everyday ejection.