Devil Rays prospect throws bat at plate umpire

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by Kaliix

I wonder if Young would have done that if the regular umpires were calling the game...?

i wasnt there and i dont profess to have knowledge of what went on in the previous games, but i would guess that he wouldnt do that if the regulars were in. hes probably frustrated with the calls that have been made thus far and couldnt take it. that doesnt negate what he did, and it might not even be true.

[moorg]

As much as I want to see the professionals back on the field (it couldn't come fast enough for me), this guy is an umpire. I hope we do not use his physical abuse to further the cause. Throw the book at Young. He threw at bat at all of us.

[SAump]

Did he spend the night in JAIL and how will other ballplayers feel with him around? I wouldn't put my money on YES or SAFE.

I wonder if the local DA is running for re-election any time soon.

I don't think I would hang this on the STRIKE issue. Young shouldn't be an AMLU poster boy. .

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by moorg

As much as I want to see the professionals back on the field (it couldn't come fast enough for me), this guy is an umpire. I hope we do not use his physical abuse to further the cause. Throw the book at Young. He threw at bat at all of us.

I agree!

I am just saying I think if this happened to an AMLU guy, the union would raise hell and make sure they threw the book at him. It is actually sad that no one will likely stand up for this scab umpire in this situation. (one of many reasons it doesn't pay to be a scab.)

[LakeErieUmp]

Don't forget, Orlando Brown of the Cleveland Browns pushed a referee to the ground and got basically nothing for it.
I don't buy the idea he only did it because it was a replacement ump. Blue is blue. Otherwise what happens at Triple-A...does he get to throw a ball at a Triple-A umpire because he's not a major league umpire?
Once upon a time umpires (and basketball officials and football referees) were untouchable. Once upon a time Robbie Alomar is suspended for life for spitting on John Hershbeck.
Once upon a time.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by LakeErieUmp

Don't forget, Orlando Brown of the Cleveland Browns pushed a referee to the ground and got basically nothing for it.
I don't buy the idea he only did it because it was a replacement ump. Blue is blue. Otherwise what happens at Triple-A...does he get to throw a ball at a Triple-A umpire because he's not a major league umpire?
Once upon a time umpires (and basketball officials and football referees) were untouchable. Once upon a time Robbie Alomar is suspended for life for spitting on John Hershbeck.
Once upon a time.

i dont think he threw the bat at the umpire just because he was a replacement and he thought he could get away, i think he threw the bat because the replacement umpires havent been up to the high quality that he has seen before. he is probably frustrated that their calls have gone against him or have been inconsistent. he probably got rung up on a questionable pitch that has gone both ways all throughout the season so far and had enough.

im not saying hes right in what he did, but i had a feeling that players would be blowing up on these replacements sometime.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

i dont think he threw the bat at the umpire just because he was a replacement and he thought he could get away, i think he threw the bat because the replacement umpires havent been up to the high quality that he has seen before. he is probably frustrated that their calls have gone against him or have been inconsistent. he probably got rung up on a questionable pitch that has gone both ways all throughout the season so far and had enough.

im not saying hes right in what he did, but i had a feeling that players would be blowing up on these replacements sometime.

Peter Gammons on ESPN said Young has a history of these types of blowups and they spent ZERO seconds on the fact that this was a replacement umpire.

The AMLU doesn't want to hang their hats on this one. Oh, I see they blocked public access to their "Scab Gallery."

[FlyerAve]

Young was totally out-of-line. Any suspension is too light of penalty.

At the same time, I have NO sympathy for the SCAB umpire! The umpire should be repremanded for becoming a replacement umpire.

[LakeErieUmp]

My "point" is that the official is deserving of respect by the player. John Hershbeck was not a scab, was he?
Jeff Triplette (the referee Brown pushed down) has been an NFL official since 1996. Is he a scab?
This is not the first time a player has abused an official. And it does not magically begin at the level of professional players. The respect of officials must begin at the first day of organized play, whether Little League, or Pop Warner, or travel hockey, or AAU basketball. Blue - or stripes - or whatever the heck soccer refs are wearing this year - must be hands-off.

[bobbybanaduck]

I sincerely hope that Young is allowed to give his side of the story in the media. While I do not and never would condone his actions, I am fully expecting to find out that the umpire said something that got the bat thrown at him. I reiterate, I DO NOT AGREE with Young's actions, but bats don't get thrown at you for no reason.

The guy that worked the plate, while remaining anonymous to most of the world, is not anonymous to me. I know him, have worked with him, and saw first hand his "handling" of a situation. I have very little doubt that Young's actions, as awful as they were, were in reaction to this guy popping off. Does that make it OK? No. Did it shed a little light on the situation when I found out who worked the gane? You're damn right it did.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

I sincerely hope that Young is allowed to give his side of the story in the media. While I do not and never would condone his actions, I am fully expecting to find out that the umpire said something that got the bat thrown at him. I reiterate, I DO NOT AGREE with Young's actions, but bats don't get thrown at you for no reason.

The guy that worked the plate, while remaining anonymous to most of the world, is not anonymous to me. I know him, have worked with him, and saw first hand his "handling" of a situation. I have very little doubt that Young's actions, as awful as they were, were in reaction to this guy popping off. Does that make it OK? No. Did it shed a little light on the situation when I found out who worked the gane? You're damn right it did.

I just can't remember the last time I clocked a player with my mask when he popped off at me.

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

I sincerely hope that Young is allowed to give his side of the story in the media. While I do not and never would condone his actions, I am fully expecting to find out that the umpire said something that got the bat thrown at him. I reiterate, I DO NOT AGREE with Young's actions, but bats don't get thrown at you for no reason.

The guy that worked the plate, while remaining anonymous to most of the world, is not anonymous to me. I know him, have worked with him, and saw first hand his "handling" of a situation. I have very little doubt that Young's actions, as awful as they were, were in reaction to this guy popping off. Does that make it OK? No. Did it shed a little light on the situation when I found out who worked the gane? You're damn right it did.

I've enjoyed this thread, as much for the nostaligia as the drama. Lest I be cast as the protagonist, I'm quoting this piece but could have used others.

What difference does it make if the umpire said something to him? If the replacement umpire had said, "Sit down, you dumb (insert the racial epithet of your choice) - that was strike three." It doesn't permit this pinhead's actions.

Bruce Froemming wouldn't explain an eight inning balk against a Cub's pitcher the other day. When the pitcher inquired what he had done to cause the balk, Froemming (36 years) told him to "get back on the f***ing mound". Three players heard him say it and yet, the pitcher didn't launch the ball at Bruce's chest.

Don't excuse the actions of an idiot athlete with those of a replacement umpire. SInce the umpire's name has not been released, we do not know his resume. Would the player's actions be more defensible if he was a LL umpire of a former Minor League umpire called back to work? Once you step on the field wearing the uniform, you are afforded respect while being marked a target. It is a shame that Dmitri's little brother can't control himself and needs to throw things when he doesn't get his way.

BTW, the league said he is suspended indefinetly. The fact that he is a golden child will probably shift the penalty his way. Remember, the union complained of horse**** penalties and abuse when they were out there. Balls were thrown, bats flung and umpires pushed - all when the 'real' umpires were in charge. This dimwit didn't care who was out there and his agent will spin it that way.

[LakeErieUmp]

On that point I agree with you completely PWL. We agree far more than we disagree.

[Peruvian]

Originally Posted by PWL

Respect is a two way street and this person who got hit with a bat does not have mine for what he chose to do. Just like swimming in the ocean. You might have a good time, but no one can guarantee you won't get shark bit.

I don't care who you are, what profession you're in or how the hell you feel about 'scab' umpires - no one deserves to be hit with a thrown bat by any player. Your view is just such an asinine way to look at it. Good one, PWL.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Peruvian

I don't care who you are, what profession you're in or how the hell you feel about 'scab' umpires - no one deserves to be hit with a thrown bat by any player. Your view is just such an asinine way to look at it. Good one, PWL.

I wouldn't even wish a bat thrown at PWL during a game....but he can't extend that courtesy to others. I guess he checks the union card of each of his partners to see if he's going to have their back on the field that night or not.




PWL, why don't you just quit pussyfooting around and call for a good riot or two at the ole ballpark?


You know you want to.....