Nfhs Fpsr @ Hp

[Tim C]

Situation:

Base loaded and less than two out.

Ground ball to F4 who throws home to F2 covering the plate.

Throw pulls F2 towards the left handed hitting batter's box.

Advancing R3 is clearly out on the force at the plate.

As R3 slides into the plate his slide takes him slightly past the plate where he upends the catcher who then throws wildly to first in an attempt to retire the batter-runner.

You make the call,

Regards,

[SanDiegoSteve]

"Time, Interference, Illegal Slide, Batter-Runner Out."

According to 2-32-2c, it is an illegal slide if a runner goes beyond the base and then makes contact with or alters the play of the fielder. If the runner decides to slide, it must be a legal slide, and he may slide or run in a direction away from the fielder to avoid making contact.

[mcrowder]

No call for me. Sounds to me like he was not fully beyond home when contact occurred. SDS's rule is not meant to apply unless the runner passes the base. If he's still ON the base, and his feet (which are beyond the base) contact a fielder, play on.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Sounded to me like he said R3 was "slightly past home plate," which I took to mean his entire body was past the plate, and F2 was in the left hand batter's box making the throw. He upended the catcher, so he must have been considerably past the plate, IMO.

[bossman72]

I agree with steve.

Bang the DP

[UmpJM]

While there is no way to definitively comment without having seen the play, as described (and the picture I have in my mind from that description), I would be inclined to agree with mcrowder's assessment that this is "nothing", play on.

A bases loaded force at home on a grounder to the 2nd basemen is typically a "close play". The left-hand batter's box begins six inches from home plate. It is well within the realm of likelihood that the R3 made a perfectly legal slide into home and "upended" the catcher with his butt resting on home plate.

It's also entirely possible that the R3 went out of his way to (intentionally) interfere with the F2's chance to complete a double play on the BR. Can't tell from the description.

JM

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

While there is no way to definitively comment without having seen the play, as described (and the picture I have in my mind from that description), I would be inclined to agree with mcrowder's assessment that this is "nothing", play on.

A bases loaded force at home on a grounder to the 2nd basemen is typically a "close play". The left-hand batter's box begins six inches from home plate. It is well within the realm of likelihood that the R3 made a perfectly legal slide into home and "upended" the catcher with his butt resting on home plate.


It's also entirely possible that the R3 went out of his way to (intentionally) interfere with the F2's chance to complete a double play on the BR. Can't tell from the description.

JM

It doesn't matter -- is initial contact behind the base (plate)? If so, FPSR.