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Old Sun Apr 23, 2006, 04:42pm
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Check out 2006 case book 9.1.1 M

Yes, i also agree, it's a stupid rule
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Old Sun Apr 23, 2006, 08:05pm
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just to be clear - Fed Rules all runs count even if the passing is the 3rd out and in OBR it is a time play? - only the runners who have crossed home before the passing would score.
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Old Mon Apr 24, 2006, 12:22am
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just to be clear - Fed Rules all runs count even if the passing is the 3rd out and in OBR it is a time play? - only the runners who have crossed home before the passing would score.
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All runs but the person who is out because of the passing. In OBR, timing play as you describe.

Question for the crowd...based on the FED interp as above, say bases are loaded, BR hits the granny. R2 passes R3 around 3rd base, because R3 was tagging from third. Two Outs. R2 is out and all count 3 runs (R3, R1, BR), right?
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Old Mon Apr 24, 2006, 07:29am
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All runs but the person who is out because of the passing. In OBR, timing play as you describe.

Question for the crowd...based on the FED interp as above, say bases are loaded, BR hits the granny. R2 passes R3 around 3rd base, because R3 was tagging from third. Two Outs. R2 is out and all count 3 runs (R3, R1, BR), right?
I'd say only R3's run counts. Runners behind the third out still cannot score. NOte that if the third out is a force-out, no runs score, even if the runners are "entitled" to home on the award. I'd use the same logic on your play -- that is, the FED's interp only changes the "timing" aspect of the scoring rule, not any of the other provisions.

Given the FED's recent interp, though, I'm prepared to be wrong.
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Old Mon Apr 24, 2006, 10:39am
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I'd say only R3's run counts. Runners behind the third out still cannot score. NOte that if the third out is a force-out, no runs score, even if the runners are "entitled" to home on the award. I'd use the same logic on your play -- that is, the FED's interp only changes the "timing" aspect of the scoring rule, not any of the other provisions.

Given the FED's recent interp, though, I'm prepared to be wrong.
Bob, less than two outs what's your ruling?
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Old Mon Apr 24, 2006, 10:52am
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Bob, less than two outs what's your ruling?

Score 'em! Even if it was a force- less than 2 outs makes it inconsequential.
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Old Sun Apr 23, 2006, 09:11pm
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Check out 2006 case book 9.1.1 M

Yes, i also agree, it's a stupid rule
This "change" in FED interpretation for 2006 is duly noted in the 2006 BRD. Casebook play 9.1.1 M reads differently in the 2005 casebook. BRD also notes that this is a timing play in NCAA and OBR.

I was not aware of the change, but I am now.
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