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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 09:19pm
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So, if the BR has not entered dead ball territory, and the defense appeals, the appeal isn't valid? Say the BR is ALMOST to the dugout and the defense appeals, then the BR comes back and touches the plate. Ruling?????
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 09:34pm
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In FED you can make a dead ball verbal appeal at any time. The ball is dead when it went over the fence so they could dead ball verbal appeal any missed base as soon as it happened, as long as the runner is not trying to return to the base at the time.

In OBR the ball must be live to make an appeal.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 09:37pm
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FED rules say that appeals can be granted when the baserunning responsibilities are finsished on awarded bases. I interpret that to mean that if the BR missed second, an appeal wouldn't be granted until he reached home.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 10:06pm
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FED rules say that appeals can be granted when the baserunning responsibilities are finsished on awarded bases. I interpret that to mean that if the BR missed second, an appeal wouldn't be granted until he reached home.
When the ball is dead a runner may not return to touch a missed base after he touches the next base. A dead ball verbal appeal can be made any time after the ball is dead.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 11:14pm
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I think if the runner misses home, and starts toward the dugout and seems as though he has no intention to retouch, i'll allow an appeal.
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Old Fri Apr 21, 2006, 01:27am
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I think if the runner misses home, and starts toward the dugout and seems as though he has no intention to retouch, i'll allow an appeal.
In a pro or college game, you'd have to get the ball to the pitcher and make it live again since there are no dead ball appeals at those levels.
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Old Fri Apr 21, 2006, 10:29am
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In a pro or college game, you'd have to get the ball to the pitcher and make it live again since there are no dead ball appeals at those levels.

Yes, agreed.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 09:40pm
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The appeal isn't valid until play resumes. DC should wait for B/R and his entourage to enter the dugout. Not even the DC should verbally appeal until then, unless he wants to see the B/R return and touch. Rulebook states that defense cannot get an out during the dead ball because of a HR. The missed base OUT occurs on a proper appeal ruling that takes place afterward.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 10:03pm
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Rulebook states that defense cannot get an out during the dead ball because of a HR.
Could you give a rules reference?


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Do they have to wait until he enters dead ball territory to appeal at home?
I would wait until the runner gets to the dugout. That is when I believe that he has ended his baserunning responsibilities. That is what I get from FED 8.2.6c
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