Bad Form, MiLB umpires should have more Class

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't some games being worked by the nw graduates of the two professional schools? Since the strike was imminent, the PBUC boys knew that they could grab a few guys here and have no issue.

Remember, by their own admission, you have to earn the right to work those games thorugh completion of pro school and to be asked by PBUC to continue. Do you still call those guys 'scabs'?

Fact Vs. Fiction

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NONE and I repeat NONE of the 2006 PBUC grads are working as Scabs!

There are a couple of guys who went to umpire school and washed out (literally did not attend enough classes to graduate and got certificates of "participation" instead) who have chosen to Scab.

WhatWuz again decided to spread misinformation regarding these facts, hope this clears things up.

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

In the game of credibility, your mistakes and missteps have caused many to wonder. I cite two pro school instructors and the PBUC guru's gang as my evidence. You are still holding a pair of twos and want to go all in. Your bluff has been called and you have lost the pot...again.

('Evergreen' in the background)

You writing that no D1 officials would work as replacements - wrong on so many fields, it isn't even funny.

You writing that the calamity caused by Litle League umpires would cause the league to beg the AMLU guys to come back - two weeks, less ejections and the same controversy that the regulars had.

Your insistence that these guys survive on an $8-$15,000 a year salary - their press releases told that they are prepared to whether a long strike since all of them make more at their other jobs.

You writing that the AMLU boys aren't apprentices - even the league considers them students!

You wrote that there was no way the league would support the replacements - the league issued a terse warning about behavior and said that fines will be levied against anyone who acts reklessly.

What did happen to the recent graduates? Oh, I forgot...you also wrote that former MiLB umpires wouldn't cross the picket line. I seem to have seen otherwise. It's okay, take an aspirin and the pain will go away for a little while.

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

In the game of credibility, your mistakes and missteps have caused many to wonder. I cite two pro school instructors and the PBUC guru's gang as my evidence. You are still holding a pair of twos and want to go all in. Your bluff has been called and you have lost the pot...again.

('Evergreen' in the background)

You writing that no D1 officials would work as replacements - wrong on so many fields, it isn't even funny.

You writing that the calamity caused by Litle League umpires would cause the league to beg the AMLU guys to come back - two weeks, less ejections and the same controversy that the regulars had.

Your insistence that these guys survive on an $8-$15,000 a year salary - their press releases told that they are prepared to whether a long strike since all of them make more at their other jobs.

You writing that the AMLU boys aren't apprentices - even the league considers them students!

You wrote that there was no way the league would support the replacements - the league issued a terse warning about behavior and said that fines will be levied against anyone who acts reklessly.

What did happen to the recent graduates? Oh, I forgot...you also wrote that former MiLB umpires wouldn't cross the picket line. I seem to have seen otherwise. It's okay, take an aspirin and the pain will go away for a little while.

Don't know who you are talking to. I hope it isn't me as I said none of those things. If you are truely siting AMLU umpires and PBUC staff, then site specifically who you are talking about and what specifically they have said on the issue. Fitz has wisely kept his mouth shut on this issue, so who is it you are talking about? I think you are just talking, trying to make people believe you are in some way important and a privy to "inside" information. You aren't in the game now, and unless you site who it is that you say is giving you information I am saying (having first hand information on the situation) that you are full of $h!T.

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

Originally Posted by JIGGY

Don't know who you are talking to. I hope it isn't me as I said none of those things. If you are truely siting AMLU umpires and PBUC staff, then site specifically who you are talking about and what specifically they have said on the issue. Fitz has wisely kept his mouth shut on this issue, so who is it you are talking about? I think you are just talking, trying to make people believe you are in some way important and a privy to "inside" information. You aren't in the game now, and unless you site who it is that you say is giving you information I am saying (having first hand information on the situation) that you are full of $h!T.

I must have missed a memo. When exactly did you specifically cite your source?

Another day in the books and still no call for the AMLU guys to save the day.

[WhatWuzThatBlue]

You offered no proof as to your opinion. I cited two current instructors from a professional school and someone in Fitz's immediate entourage (it is not that big, so if you can't figure it out that says much about you). You contend that no recent graduates of either professional school are working as replacement umpires and I said otherwise. The box scores prove you wrong, Mr. Wizard. A past student of mine went to pro school three years ago and this past year. He graduated and was offered games. He has worked at least six games that I'm aware of thus far. Hmmmmm...

I think we all know what you are...but once it becomes 0s and 1s, Bob and Mick will delete the post. (Snicker, giggle, chuckle)

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

The box scores prove you wrong, Mr. Wizard.

im not joining in the arguments that are going on, i have a a serious question: i was under the impression that the names of umpires were being left out of box scores, and i have also heard that umpires names arent announced. are some allowing their name to be put into the box score, or was my impression incorrect?

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

im not joining in the arguments that are going on, i have a a serious question: i was under the impression that the names of umpires were being left out of box scores, and i have also heard that umpires names arent announced. are some allowing their name to be put into the box score, or was my impression incorrect?

Brian,

MiLB has ordered that umpire names are not announced or released. I don't have the link handy, but this comes directly from an MiLB interview/press release.

If any names are released it would be by request of the specific umpire.

[JIGGY]

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

You offered no proof as to your opinion. I cited two current instructors from a professional school and someone in Fitz's immediate entourage (it is not that big, so if you can't figure it out that says much about you). You contend that no recent graduates of either professional school are working as replacement umpires and I said otherwise. The box scores prove you wrong, Mr. Wizard. A past student of mine went to pro school three years ago and this past year. He graduated and was offered games. He has worked at least six games that I'm aware of thus far. Hmmmmm...

I think we all know what you are...but once it becomes 0s and 1s, Bob and Mick will delete the post. (Snicker, giggle, chuckle)

If you did site anyone at all, I missed it. Point out where you mentioned who it is you claim to be in good with. Not only won't you, you can't.

[Kaliix]

Well my opinion doesn't mean much, but I have been around this board long enough to know WWTB and his posts. He has a history here that makes me think he knows what he says he knows.

You came on the seen just recently and have no history. I'd believe him over you in a heart beat.

And besides that, I haven't seen you name anyone either???

Only reputation at this point....

Originally Posted by JIGGY

If you did site anyone at all, I missed it. Point out where you mentioned who it is you claim to be in good with. Not only won't you, you can't. You thought that talking big would make you look big. You are a clown, and you continue to prove it.

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

You offered no proof as to your opinion. I cited two current instructors from a professional school and someone in Fitz's immediate entourage (it is not that big, so if you can't figure it out that says much about you). You contend that no recent graduates of either professional school are working as replacement umpires and I said otherwise. The box scores prove you wrong, Mr. Wizard. A past student of mine went to pro school three years ago and this past year. He graduated and was offered games. He has worked at least six games that I'm aware of thus far. Hmmmmm...

I think we all know what you are...but once it becomes 0s and 1s, Bob and Mick will delete the post. (Snicker, giggle, chuckle)

Let's clarify this:

1. NO 2006 PBUC graduate has been offered a job, becasue there are none.

2. Those finishing PBUC were told only where on 'the list' they were & advised of the potential opportunity of a job.

3. If this student simply completed the 5 week course, so what? He's now a well trained (If he paid attention & showed up that is. If he suffered a 'spider bite' then your post means less than zero, because that's what this individual's potential is) umpire ready to learn his/her craft.

Of course this is only my opinion.