Positions B and C

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I've umpired baseball for 20 years and also worked basketball and football. Baseball is by far the most difficult of the three to call, despite what Jeff tries to shove down our throats every now and then.

Standing in one place for an hour is really hard work. Maybe that is why an Eric Gregg can be at the highest level. Really hard to do that.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Standing in one place for an hour is really hard work. Maybe that is why an Eric Gregg can be at the highest level. Really hard to do that.

Peace

How many baseball games have you ever worked that lasted an hour? What level was this, T-Ball? Why make such a remark? - mick

I just got done working 3 games on Saturday, one-man mechanics, from 9 AM to after 5PM. I'm sunburned like a freakin' lobster, and could barely walk from my back/hip Saturday night. Now that's work.

Standing in one place? If that is how you umpire, I feel real sorry for the teams that get you. I hustle my butt off when I do baseball, or any other sport. I used to do 3 and 4 football games on a Saturday, working the flanks on Pop Warner games where all you do is sprint back and forth down the field on 90 yard touchdown plays all the live-long doo dah day.

I used to have the privledge of working one-man basketball from top-of-the-key to top-of-the-key. I did 3 games back-to-back-to-back twice a week for the top A-League in the SDSU Inter-Fraternity Rec League, where all the slam-dunkin' brothers played. That was also quite a workout.

Even after all that, I still say baseball is much harder. It's much harder to call 250 to 300 pitches a game than call some fouls or throw a penalty flag once in a while. Sheesh.

BTW, I do know Mr. Gregg. I've played some softball with the man. He is a great guy, and was a damn good umpire. Why you want to disparage him is beyond me.

War

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Standing in one place for an hour is really hard work. Maybe that is why an Eric Gregg can be at the highest level. Really hard to do that.

Peace

Come on, Jeff. I know you're better than standing in one spot while you're working a baseball game aren't you?


Tim.

[SAump]

"SAump is another troll from Officials Unlimited, Brian, good catch there."

Honestlty, I have never had sex with any women from OU, or any MILF from eteamz. This is the ONE baseball site I choose because I think it is the best (maybe FED is close, , maybe NOT).

My premise is entirely over safety concerns. Take the steroids and work the slot. Buy lots of ICE too for those bruises. I know you want to move up. You can have my ticket too. There is no overnight magic pill. Hustle, knowledge and determination only get you so FAR before reality brings you back to earth. The PRO, ML and NCAA boyz don't want you there. There aren't enuf SPOTS and those that are available don't PAY like your DAY job. Sorry to BUST your bubble. Please get your college certificate and find a good slot in the job market.

Moderator, I think something may have spun out of control here. I leave you the last DANCE. I will now retire from this thread.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SAump

Moderator, I think something may have spun out of control here. I leave you the last DANCE. I will now retire from this thread.

For once, SAump and I agree. Allowing this to continue is just ridiculous. I don't know how many posts you'll have to delete that have been made by this guy under multiple alias' or ban him by user name until the problem gets solved. He destroyed his own forum and now he's bent on destroying all others out of rage and petty jealousy. I suppose I could stoop to his level and spew forth venom about his family, his job, post bull about his wife leaving him, make a mockery out of his fathers death, but that's not my style. It's time to send him back to own forum where he can post whatever he wants as whoever he wants whenever he wants.


Tim.

[Carl Childress]

Originally Posted by SAump

"SAump is another troll from Officials Unlimited, Brian, good catch there."

Honestlty, I have never had sex with any women from OU, or any MILF from eteamz. This is the ONE baseball site I choose because I think it is the best (maybe FED is close, , maybe NOT).

My premise is entirely over safety concerns. Take the steroids and work the slot. Buy lots of ICE too for those bruises. I know you want to move up. You can have my ticket too. There is no overnight magic pill. Hustle, knowledge and determination only get you so FAR before reality brings you back to earth. The PRO, ML and NCAA boyz don't want you there. There aren't enuf SPOTS and those that are available don't PAY like your DAY job. Sorry to BUST your bubble. Please get your college certificate and find a good slot in the job market.

Moderator, I think something may have spun out of control here. I leave you the last DANCE. I will now retire from this thread.

I must be out of step. In my clinics, articles, books, I teach there are TWO positions from which to view a pitch: (a) the box; (b) the slot. (Professional umpires stole the name "box" for one of their slot stances. Ignore that revisionism.)

The box is that rectangle directly behind the catcher. The American League umpires used the box from the start of their League in 1903 until the 1970s. A box umpire looks directly over the catcher's head and views the plate head on.

Every other stance is a slot, where the umpire looks between the batter and the plate.

There are simply variations of the slot stance: knee (Doug Harvey's creation), scissors (Ed Vargo's sadistic legacy), heel-toe (PBUC stance), heel/toe/heel/toe (Jim Evan's name for his stance), balanced (John McSherry's stance, which the wannabes call the box), and the Gerry Davis.

Gerry Davis is identical to John McSherry's balanced slot stance with one addition: Gerry (and his disciplies, of whom I am one) uses the hands-on-knees set position.

There is one safe place for an umpire behind the plate: In the box (behind the catcher) with the outside protector.

Wherever else you stand, you're going to get plunked.

Now, if I've missed something, and there is a spot where the umpire can use Gerry Davis without being in the slot, let know.

Otherwise, buy plenty of Sportscreme. And get those soccer shin guards for forearm protection. About half of the GD umpires in my association now wear them. They smile a lot more.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Carl Childress

I must be out of step. In my clinics, articles, books, I teach there are TWO positions from which to view a pitch: (a) the box; (b) the slot. (Professional umpires stole the name "box" for one of their slot stances. Ignore that revisionism.)

The box is that rectangle directly behind the catcher. The American League umpires used the box from the start of their League in 1903 until the 1970s. A box umpire looks directly over the catcher's head and views the plate head on.

Every other stance is a slot, where the umpire looks between the batter and the plate.

There are simply variations of the slot stance: knee (Doug Harvey's creation), scissors (Ed Vargo's sadistic legacy), heel-toe (PBUC stance), heel/toe/heel/toe (Jim Evan's name for his stance), balanced (John McSherry's stance, which the wannabes call the box), and the Gerry Davis.

Gerry Davis is identical to John McSherry's balanced slot stance with one addition: Gerry (and his disciplies, of whom I am one) uses the hands-on-knees set position.

There is one safe place for an umpire behind the plate: In the box (behind the catcher) with the outside protector.

Wherever else you stand, you're going to get plunked.

Now, if I've missed something, and there is a spot where the umpire can use Gerry Davis without being in the slot, let know.

Otherwise, buy plenty of Sportscreme. And get those soccer shin guards for forearm protection. About half of the GD umpires in my association now wear them. They smile a lot more.

I had forgotten about the shin guards for the arms, but after getting "plunked" Saturday in the forearm that would be a good investment, actually, my son has some that he uses for soccer that I could borrow.

And worn under my jacket, if would also be pretty much unnoticed. Thanks for the reminder.

Thanks
David