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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 10:56am
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Did anyone else read the story where's there's a shortage of Sunflower seeds this year???
Yea, wasn't that in the Antartica Daily News. Something about an short growing season. Interesting piece.
Something like that....
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/8423759
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 11:38am
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I did a playoff game this year on an turf field where they are forbidden, but on a regular field, there is no reason to disallow it.
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Lance? I don't understand the Lance thing. The kids were only 10 years old so that's why I ask if I should respect it b/c it could be a bad example to them. What would you do DG?
Most youth leagues prohibit tobacco use by anyone associated with the game -- coaches and umpires included.
Tobacco is also forbidden by major league baseball and the National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues for all minor leagues. The "tobacco ban" policy takes up three pages in the PBUC manual. (7.27)

Hooray!

Major League players on rehab with a minor league are exempted from the rule.

Boo!

My association forbids umpires from using sunflower seeds during a game.

Hooray!

State law forbids any tobacco on any "school" field or stadium.

Horray!
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 01:25pm
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And by the way, 2 different people complained at me today for dipping skoal while I umpired, should I respect this?
I find out that one of my umpires is using tobacco during a game, at a minimum he has an a$$-chewing coming his way. If he persists, he will be sanctioned.

Heard a comment the other day...the ball field is an extension of the classroom.

I think that rings true for 99% of the umpires out there.
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:03pm
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I guess it's alot different in East Tennessee. About 50% of the umpires dip or chew here, including the assignors and crew chiefs.
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:11pm
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My association forbids umpires from using sunflower seeds during a game.

Hooray!
My, isn't your association a little anal retentive. Someone pass me a bag of seeds, please (but only if I'm working the bases).
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:12pm
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I guess it's alot different in East Tennessee. About 50% of the umpires dip or chew here, including the assignors and crew chiefs.
I lived in Knoxville for 3 years and I NEVER worked with anyone who smoked or dipped on the field.
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:18pm
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Ha! You're kidding me right? That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Who did you work for?
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:19pm
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And I'm not talking about smoking. That would be a sight, to see an umpire smoking on the field. I'm just talking about dipping or chewing. I would say it's a good 40-50%
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My association forbids umpires from using sunflower seeds during a game.

Hooray!
My, isn't your association a little anal retentive. Someone pass me a bag of seeds, please (but only if I'm working the bases).
Rich: With such an attitude, we wouldn't certify you in our association.

Our umpires, about 120, overwhelmingly supported the ban - in a vote. We think chewing seeds on the field is the ultimate in non-professionalism.

"You're out!! Oops, sorry about the seeds, man."
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:37pm
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Well,

All I know is that no umpire in our association is allow to chew tobacco.

It is a warning, followed by suspension, followed by firing.

I know nothing of other groups but I would be skeptical that 40 to 50% of any umpire association chew on the field.

We have six artifical turf fields that all do not allow seeds.

Exaggeration is an art -- and I have said that one million times.
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 02:40pm
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This is summer ball I am speaking of Tim. I'm sure for high school and college it is different. This is no exaggeration though, it's East Tennessee man, there shouldn't be any suprise there.
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 07:49pm
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This is summer ball I am speaking of Tim.
ohhh summer ball. toss out all of the norms, its summer!

how is what you do (as an umpire) different when the seasons change, other than wearing a jacket/coat or shirt?
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 07:57pm
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Yeah brian, be a smart-a$$ like every other umpire on here please. As if we haven't already heard enough. It's not funny anymore man. Summer ball as in not high school or college season ball anymore buddy. Big difference. Many times it is not as professional. Everybody knows the difference. Good try at trying to be funny though, it almost worked.
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Old Mon Jul 25, 2005, 08:08pm
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Yeah brian, be a smart-a$$ like every other umpire on here please. As if we haven't already heard enough. It's not funny anymore man. Summer ball as in not high school or college season ball anymore buddy. Big difference. Many times it is not as professional. Everybody knows the difference. Good try at trying to be funny though, it almost worked.
All of our summer leagues have the same rules regarding tobacco as FED. (High school ball, for you, Dude) I'll bet many of yours do as well.

Additionally, summer ball uses high school fields. The rules regarding tobacco on school propery apply year around, not just the school year.

I don't doubt some porch sittin' banjo playing tobacky dippin toothless umpire in Tennesee may ignore the rules, but I'm sure they're in place anyway.
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