New Balk - or not I'm not sure.

[Kaliix]

If I follow what you are saying Garth (and I am a little unsure that I am), I think I've stated that both up and backward should happen at about the same time. In fact, the criteria I gave was "What I'm looking for is his knee coming parallel with his waist. To lift you leg up that high is 18" at least. At that point, if he hasn't stepped backward and isn't coming down, balk."

I agree, you have to lift you leg up somewhat and I'd give 'em till the knee becomes parallel with the waist.

What are your thoughts about simulating a pitching motion and intent?

I think those are actually the better arguments.

Originally posted by GarthB
"There is nothing in the rule about preliminary movement, you are right. The rule states the pitcher is allowed to do three things from the set. Pitch, throw to a base or step backward off. If those are the only three things allowed by the rule, why allow any preliminary motion? The rule states that only three things can occur. The one we are discussing is a step backward off. Since it is one of only three things allowed, anything other than a pitch, throw to a base or a backward step off is illegal and hence a balk.

That is why a preliminary motion is not allowed."

A. Unless the pitcher slides his foot backward, it is physically impossible to step off backwards without raising the foot upwards.

B. That said, it is a matter of degree as to what is tolerated.

C. Not seeing the move, some of us have concentrated on the arguments of others. I for example, being the picker of nits that I am, have concentrated on K's argument that a pitcher may not lift his foot upward, when he may, indeed he must...at least somewhat.

D. I'm sure, however, that regards the larger argument, My original position will be proven wrong.