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Old Thu Oct 21, 2004, 08:30pm
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And you wonder why your credibility is shot?

Posted by JR at Oct 21st, 2004 01:53 PM:
My first question to you is do you have the reference to FED or NCAA Rules?
Posted by JR at Oct 21st, 2004 04:34 PM
I did not ask for anything, I was just making a point that I do not work OBR rules.
Posted by JR at Oct 21st, 2004 03:09 PM,
I see you have not ever picked up a FED Rulebook. You cannot protest a game in FED Rules
Posted by JR at Oct 21st, 2004 04:34 PM
I should have just said it was not allowed in my state. FED rules are local for the most part.


(Actually, FED rules are national with certain options. Yes, states adapt them, but the rules themselves are NATIONAL. That's why they are published by the NATIONAL High School Federation).

A great example is those states that do not allow any other bats except for wood.

(And what states would that be?)

If you want the coach to play you like a fiddle and every disagreement he asks for an appeal, you go and do that

Where in the world did Windy, Sal, myself or ANYONE else on this board EVER suggest this? Good grief, man, all of us have worked at least the D-1 level (Windy claims higher, that's between you and him, I don't care). Do you think ANY of us would have made it to that level if we let every coach's gripe of a banger at first turn into an appeal? Do you honestly believe that we would have made it to that level if every coach "played us like a fiddle"? Please assume we have SOME sense, as do our assignors.

We are discussing checked swings (where in OBR AND NCAA rules, you MUST check, contrary to your view of NCAA rules as stated earlier). We are discussing plays such as the A-Rod interference type of call. We are discussing the HR/GRD call like the other night. We are discussing calls where your partner may have information that could help you, but he is not about to step on your call.

Wake up and get a clue. I'm tired of trying to lead the blind here. A lot of people with a lot of experience tried to give you advice to help make you a better ump. But you know better than all of us so you tell the world how you are right and how every other more experienced umpire is wrong. I'll call Dave Yeast and see if I can get you on the speaker's list for the NCAA Rules Clinics in January. I'm sure ALL of the NCAA umps would like some more of this wisdom. Or maybe you could come work the Southern Umpires clinic in February. We could always use comic relief.

And when Tony Thompson calls with games for me next spring, I'll tell him he needs to bring JR in from Illinois, because he knows MUCH better than do any of the umps in his association when to ignore a coach and not grant an appeal.

But you did say something that was VERY true:

I will never work a game with you

And I thank God for that.




(Gee, I've been driven to sounding like Windy. To everyone else, sorry!)
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