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Old Sat Oct 02, 2004, 04:55pm
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yeah,one choice of shirt color, no helmets without
a hat......pretty dull.
I wish they'd let us wear sleeves under our shirts. That's the most mundane of them all. It's barely cool enough (55-60 degrees) for a jacket but too cold for short sleeves and the jacket is the only option you have. The state approved jacket is just too damn hot for those days.


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Old Sat Oct 02, 2004, 05:32pm
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yeah,one choice of shirt color, no helmets without
a hat......pretty dull.
I wish they'd let us wear sleeves under our shirts. That's the most mundane of them all. It's barely cool enough (55-60 degrees) for a jacket but too cold for short sleeves and the jacket is the only option you have. The state approved jacket is just too damn hot for those days.


Long sleeve shirts? They're available in navy....
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Old Sat Oct 02, 2004, 06:01pm
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The +POS long sleeved shirt is nicest piece of gear in my extensive collection. Warm, it's semi-insulated, yet breathable. Perfect for plate work on chilly nights.
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Peruvian said :

I wish they'd let us wear sleeves under our shirts. That's the most mundane of them all. It's barely cool enough (55-60 degrees) for a jacket but too cold for short sleeves and the jacket is the only option you have. The state approved jacket is just too damn hot for those days.



Not to mention that you just get a jacket broken
in, and the "powers that be" decide to change styles.
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Old Sun Oct 03, 2004, 01:43am
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I'm curious. What's the worst thing that could happen if you wore no hat with your helmet, or long sleeves? Seems to me good umpires are at a premium. I'm asked to work at lots of organizations constantly. We're in demand, yet some organizations want to keep us down.

I understand the need for uniformity, but it does have it's limitations. Some organizations require a certain jacket, yet, if I roll out with my Fechheimer plate coat I'm sure nobody will complain (except the fashion police!).

Duck, my friend, you're being oppressed. Rise up, and take a stand. Fire off a letter, and include some pictures of MLB umpires without hats. Don't stand (box, scissors or GD) for this!
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Old Sun Oct 03, 2004, 01:54am
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yeah,one choice of shirt color, no helmets without
a hat......pretty dull.
I wish they'd let us wear sleeves under our shirts.


Now that one I understand. It looks God awful...similar to wearing long underwear with a short sleeve dress shirt.

Get a long sleeve uniform shirt.
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Old Sun Oct 03, 2004, 04:22pm
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Get a long sleeve uniform shirt.

I would, but it's either the short sleevevd shirt or the jacket.
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Old Sun Oct 03, 2004, 04:36pm
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Get a long sleeve uniform shirt.

I would, but it's either the short sleevevd shirt or the jacket.
It appears that my use of the word MORON was incorrect. What word is stronger than MORON?
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I have never seen a uniformity code for baseball. You wear what is comfortable and what is allowed (right color shirt and pants). Everything else is personal. If you watch the Majors, you might find 4 umpires each with something different on. On might wear a jacket. One wears a turtleneck shirt underneath. Another official does not wear a hat because they use a mask. As long as you match with the basics, I really do not see the need to match your partner perfectly. This is not football.

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Old Sun Oct 03, 2004, 07:54pm
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You mean in Alabama you can't wear this shirt?

http://www.pluspos.com/product.asp?which=402

That's bass akwards, brother.

Go Rosa Parks on these knuckeheads. Wear the long sleeves, and your hat in your ball bag.
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Old Sun Oct 03, 2004, 09:06pm
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You mean to tell me that you can't wear a long sleeve shirt? Do they really have a regulation against wearing them? Or do they just say that short sleeves or the jacket is the ONLY acceptable uniform?

Geez, even the military wasn't that bad...
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Old Mon Oct 04, 2004, 01:32am
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You mean to tell me that you can't wear a long sleeve shirt? Do they really have a regulation against wearing them? Or do they just say that short sleeves or the jacket is the ONLY acceptable uniform?

Geez, even the military wasn't that bad...
Are you kidding? I've been told they used to be required to wear only a certain brand of pants and evaluators would check the tags to check compliance.

Maybe it's still that way....
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Old Mon Oct 04, 2004, 09:45am
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To the Umpires in Alabama;

You all need to organize a union and tell the state where they can stick their stupid rules. If you time it right, you might get their attention. Organize over the winter and get at least 40-50 umpires on board who are all from the same section of the state. The day before the varsity season starts, present your demands to the state. Do not show up for any games until they meet the demands.

Give up on high school baseball if they fail to deal with you. If 50 or so umpires quit all at once, right before the season starts, it will have an impact.

It is not worth working in a place that has no respect for its officials. Alabama clearly has no respect for you. You are better off not umpiring than to work under such conditions. Find another hobby or work only rec or college ball.

That is the direct confrontational approach. An alternative approach is for all of you to begin ignoring the regulations all at the same time. That gives them the nightmare of having to enforce them. Make them fire you one by one.

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With my luck, they read this board, and I'd be
the first they let go,lol.
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Has anyone talked reasonably with the Alabama High School Association about this? And approached them repeatedly? The more people that inquire the louder the "voice". Keep trying.
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