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The same applies to the FED and NCAA situations. They are predicated on a live ball. There is no balk when the ball is dead. Why is this so hard to understand?
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Yep, Garth . . .
As we all know these examples are related to live ball situations.
This thread started with a simple issue: After a dead ball is it possible to have a hidden ball trick? The answer is elementary: No, as it is impossible to make a ball live without the proper procedure. It is impossible to have a balk with a dead ball and the ball cannot be placed into live action without proper steps. This simply gives us one of the TWO examples of "do overs" in baseball. I don't think people "don't get it," I just think they want to swim upstream against authoritive opinion. And Peter, we know you hit my response square on the head. A Home run! Tee [Edited by Tim C on Aug 2nd, 2004 at 05:50 PM] |
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[QUOTE] originally posted by GarthB The J/R quote has been brought up before and Rick Roder has, in an old email, I believe, agreed that it is predicated on the ball being live. I wasn't aware of the Roder comments...just trying to add to the argument, based on additional comments I have seen. In my opinion - no balk w/out putting the ball in play. Can't put the ball in play unless the provisions in rule 5-1-4 are satisfied.
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Re: Yep, Garth . . .
Originally posted by Tim C
I don't think people "don't get it," I just think they want to swim upstream against authoritive opinion. And Peter, we know you hit my response square on the head. A Home run! Tee Common TEE we have all called a dead ball balk. (BIG GRIN!) The game is going on 3 hours, Temps in the 90's Game winning run on third and in our heads we hear that familiar ballpark voice " BEER HERE! BEER HERE!. I've got a Dead ball balk, game over, time to go and get some AC and a cold one. Pete Booth
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