Umpire's Liability?

[GarthB]

Originally posted by His High Holiness

Garth

Two or three months ago, Observer of the Obvious got into a huge s$$$house over on McGriffs when he asked that question. He kept asking it over and over and no one came up with an answer. He only wanted one case.

Using the logic from those two posters with initials "JR", you must be Observer of the Obvious.

It's you Garth. We have solved the mystery! Shame on you for stirring up all that trouble on McGriffs.

Peter

I assume you're joking Peter. I haven't made a post at McGripes in four years, and I plan on keeping it that way. I've been away from Sleazteams for three and a half years and have no desire to change my status there either. As strange as this board can get from time to time, it is an oasis of decent thought compared to those two wastes of internet space.

[GarthB]

Despite my earlier post, I will acknowledge that some form of insurance is appropriate. Our state covers us against injury during school ball, and our association cover us against injury during summer ball.

But outside of injuries, the main need for insurance isn't for liability, it's for getting sued. I carry insurance that basically covers me against scum-sucking, bottom-dwelling, truth-bending, decency-debasing, venom-spewing, ******* barristers.

[DG]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

We have an adult league in the area where the guys like to act "cool" and not wear a helmet on the bases. Funny, but this doesn't appear in writing as one of the exceptions to the pro rules we use. I simply think it would be gross negligence on my part should someone get hurt if I allow the players to ignore the fact that they need to wear helmets. I carry umbrella insurance along with NASO coverage, but that doesn't mean I want to use either.

So, when I umpire those games, they keep their helmets on or they get ejected. I haven't had to eject anyone, yet. And one player took a nasty blow to the back of the head after getting picked off first. Slid into second feet first and the wild throw hit in the back of the head at the bottom of the helmet. I'd hate to think the result if he had no helmet on.

If someone dies due to making a choice like this, you can bet his family/widow would be suing the league and the umpires. Why even consider having to deal with that?

--Rich

I sometimes work an adult league here that actually has it written in their rules that batting helmets with double ear flaps are encouraged, but not required. The batter must wear a hard shell though. Most of the batters wear double flaps, some of them use single flaps, but there is one guy who wears a hard shell, no ear flaps. The first year I said "you can't bat like that" and they drug out their league rules and showed me. This guy must be close to 50 and they always run for him when he gets on base. That's another league rule, 2 guys in the batting order can be run for at any time.

[DownTownTonyBrown]

Originally posted by DG

I sometimes work an adult league here that actually has it written in their rules that batting helmets with double ear flaps are encouraged, but not required. The batter must wear a hard shell though. Most of the batters wear double flaps, some of them use single flaps, but there is one guy who wears a hard shell, no ear flaps. The first year I said "you can't bat like that" and they drug out their league rules and showed me. This guy must be close to 50 and they always run for him when he gets on base. That's another league rule, 2 guys in the batting order can be run for at any time. [/B][/QUOTE]

I guess if he still hears okay and wears no flaps... he's never been earholed.

Being too old and slow to run the bases minimizes his opportunity for getting drilled during that time too.

Sounds like a pretty stupid league rule. When this old guy does get earholed perhaps he will sue the league for allowing such a stupid rule. That seems to be the way our legal system works - we make laws that force us to protect our own self and then sue others when we don't follow the prudent course of protecting ourselves. It's always someone else's fault.

Have you tried "You stupid schmuck, wear a helmet with flaps or quit playing. It's only a matter of time before you get hit in the ear.... Hello! Anybody home in there? Flaps, Buddy!"

[teacherspit]

Is there any insurance company that will pay for one's own negligence?

Are there not clauses that state "Policy void due to gross negligence"? Are something to that effect.

Is there really any insurance for gross negligence?

I don't take a chance. No leadway on safety regs.

[Rich]

Originally posted by teacherspit
Is there any insurance company that will pay for one's own negligence?

Are there not clauses that state "Policy void due to gross negligence"? Are something to that effect.

Is there really any insurance for gross negligence?

I don't take a chance. No leadway on safety regs.

Most insurance claims paid involve some kind of negligence.

[Atl Blue]

You go out with the boys after a game one night. You have WAY too much to drink. You still decide to drive home. On the way home, you run a red light, slamming into another car and causing injuries. There is no one else around, so you then decide to take off without acknowledging the wreck. Becasue this was out on a country road, no one comes along for a long time, and the victim of the wreck dies from injuries that could have been treated if done so in a timely manner.

Are you GROSSLY negligent? Absolutely. Do you deserve to go to jail? For a LONG, LONG time as far as I'm concerned. But does your insurance company pay for the damages you caused? Yep.