oversliding second

[DG]

Originally posted by DG

It is easy to envision a runner sliding through the bag to take out a fielder on the other side who is working on a DP, and when he stops sliding he is not in reach of the bag. I can't believe you would call this interference when a runner slides at a fielder 6 feet from the bag, but would not call it if he slides 6 feet past the bag. That boggles the mind.

From 2004 BRD, item 279. From FED - ILLEGAL SLIDE: (3) the runner goes beyond the base and contacts the fielder or alters the fielder's play. NCAA - same as FED. OBR OFF INTERP from PBUC Manual: A sliding runner must be near enough to the base to reach the bag with his hand or foot. It would appear that in FED and NCAA just sliding past the bag is enough to call interference. In OBR the runner would need to be out of reach, and as I originally think I said, if he slides past the bag such that he can't reach it anymore, I have interference.

[David B]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DG

Originally posted by DG

In FED it would only be interference if he interfered with the play so just sliding past the bag would not be interference.

He must alter the play being made by F4 or F6.

Of course, how in the world would F6 be turning a DP when he is six feet on the other side of the bag - isn't going to happen.

And how would F4 be six feet from the bag, - ain't gonna happen either.

Thanks
David

[DG]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by David B

Originally posted by DG

In FED it would only be interference if he interfered with the play so just sliding past the bag would not be interference.

He must alter the play being made by F4 or F6.

Of course, how in the world would F6 be turning a DP when he is six feet on the other side of the bag - isn't going to happen.

And how would F4 be six feet from the bag, - ain't gonna happen either.

Thanks
David

In FED, sliding past the bag and making contact or altering the play is interference. NCAA seems to agree. Just sliding past the bag and not making contact or altering the play is not interference. I never said it was, I don't think.

There ain't a play if a fielder is 6 feet from the bag. But let's say 2B is on back side of back and in contact, receiving a throw from SS. The runner slides past the bag, and either contacts 2Bman, or alters his play and ends up well past the bag, ie not in reach. Have you never seen this happen?

[Edited by DG on Jun 11th, 2004 at 12:51 AM]

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by DG
There ain't a play if a fielder is 6 feet from the bag. But let's say 2B is on back side of back and in contact, receiving a throw from SS. The runner slides past the bag, and either contacts 2Bman, or alters his play and ends up well past the bag, ie not in reach. Have you never seen this happen?

[Edited by DG on Jun 11th, 2004 at 12:51 AM]

Yes -- and if the contact was beyond the base, it's a FPSR violation in FED and NCAA. If the contact was over (or in front of) the base, it's legal in FED and NCAA, even if the runner ends up in the same spot -- 6' of more beyond the bag.

The OBR rule (which I think is what was being discussed) is different.