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Old Tue May 30, 2017, 11:25am
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1st basemen don't typically have to throw much.

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Old Tue May 30, 2017, 12:43pm
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True, but I agree 1st base is the place for a kid with a sore arm. At least they can catch the first out. Everybody else has to throw. Katy bar the door when it comes time to throw it anywhere else.
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Old Tue May 30, 2017, 01:50pm
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True, but I agree 1st base is the place for a kid with a sore arm. At least they can catch the first out. Everybody else has to throw. Katy bar the door when it comes time to throw it anywhere else.
That needs clarification.

As for throwing:

Ground balls to IF between innings.

Relay on a ball in the RF corner.

Return throw on an attempted out at 1B.

Cut and throw on play at plate redirected to another base.

Throw to 2B when a runner goes on a pickoff and F1 throws to 1B (the normal play)

Throw to 1B after fielding a bunt.

Cross diamond throw on an infield out with a runner in jeopardy at 3B.

Throw home for a play at the plate.

Yep - not much throwing - not.

Injured? in LL as in the OP? Go sit with Mom.
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Old Tue May 30, 2017, 08:07pm
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That needs clarification.

As for throwing:

Ground balls to IF between innings.

Relay on a ball in the RF corner.

Return throw on an attempted out at 1B.

Cut and throw on play at plate redirected to another base.

Throw to 2B when a runner goes on a pickoff and F1 throws to 1B (the normal play)

Throw to 1B after fielding a bunt.

Cross diamond throw on an infield out with a runner in jeopardy at 3B.

Throw home for a play at the plate.

Yep - not much throwing - not.

Injured? in LL as in the OP? Go sit with Mom.
Really? I had no idea a first baseman did any of those things. Amazing. Thank you for that excellent explanation. Why do I feel like I'm on an episode of "The Big Bang Theory", and Sheldon just responded to my statement.
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Old Wed May 31, 2017, 09:41am
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Really? I had no idea a first baseman did any of those things. Amazing. Thank you for that excellent explanation. Why do I feel like I'm on an episode of "The Big Bang Theory", and Sheldon just responded to my statement.
Why did you say "everybody else has to throw"? Certainly implies a first baseman deosn't have to throw.
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Why did you say "everybody else has to throw"? Certainly implies a first baseman deosn't have to throw.
The requirement to throw at first base is less than at any other position. When I am looking for someone to play first base, glove work is 80% of what I'm looking for. The rest is reserved for how they throw to second on a pickoff and how they throw home after an initial play.

So if I had a kid that was hurt to the point where he couldn't throw from the outfield but not hurt enough to have to sit him (or if I couldn't sit him because of numbers), first is where I'd be looking to play him.
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Old Wed May 31, 2017, 12:19pm
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Why did you say "everybody else has to throw"? Certainly implies a first baseman deosn't have to throw.
Seriously? You're taking what I said WAY too literally. EVERY ballplayer has to throw the ball. If you will go back and read what I typed, hopefully you'll realize I was talking about odds of having to catch vs. throw when a ball is put into play in order to get the "first out".

Let me ask you this--if you only had 9 players on any particular day, and one of them had a sore arm but insisted on playing anyway, which position would you pick for them? The other guys said 1st base. What position would you pick?
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Old Wed May 31, 2017, 12:21pm
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That needs clarification.

As for throwing:

Ground balls to IF between innings.

Relay on a ball in the RF corner.

Return throw on an attempted out at 1B.

Cut and throw on play at plate redirected to another base.

Throw to 2B when a runner goes on a pickoff and F1 throws to 1B (the normal play)

Throw to 1B after fielding a bunt.

Cross diamond throw on an infield out with a runner in jeopardy at 3B.

Throw home for a play at the plate.

Yep - not much throwing - not.

Injured? in LL as in the OP? Go sit with Mom.
Most of these responsibilities can be covered for by the 2nd baseman or someone else. Frankly, if the kid is injured, and you are still playing him, then whoever else you have would probably still be worse than the injured player.

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Old Wed May 31, 2017, 12:48pm
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Most of these responsibilities can be covered for by the 2nd baseman or someone else. Frankly, if the kid is injured, and you are still playing him, then whoever else you have would probably still be worse than the injured player.

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So you'd retrain your team while the replacement pitcher was warming up?

He's 11-12. He's injured. Sit him.
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So you'd retrain your team while the replacement pitcher was warming up?

He's 11-12. He's injured. Sit him.
I would sit him. Why are we arguing so much about this? What lessons about officiating are being gained from the direction this discussion is headed? I thought this was a hypothetical case where a kid with an injured arm had to play. I obviously missed the point you were going for.

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So you'd retrain your team while the replacement pitcher was warming up?

He's 11-12. He's injured. Sit him.
And if we only had 9 players?

C'mon. Sometimes kids play when they aren't 100%. Nobody's saying that his arm is falling off here. The strain of pitching is obviously more than that of playing first base.
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Old Wed May 31, 2017, 02:03pm
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And if we only had 9 players?

C'mon. Sometimes kids play when they aren't 100%. Nobody's saying that his arm is falling off here. The strain of pitching is obviously more than that of playing first base.
He's 11-12. 65-75 years to go in life. 7-10, maybe more, of baseball if he's good. Not wrecking an arm now.

WAY too many people pushing kids WAY too hard at WAY too young an age.

Read LL 4.17 Game stops. BoD decides what next. Most likely reschedule as it was an injury issue.
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