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parrothead Mon May 29, 2017 10:46am

Little League warming up require you to pitch?
 
(Little League)If someone goes out to the mound (specifically the P from the inning before) and starts to warm up is he required to pitch (if eligible)?

If the answer is No, he does not have to pitch, then I have no follow ups.
If the answer is Yes, what if he is warming up and realizes he is injured or is arm is hurting, obviously nobody would want to require someone injured to pitch, but if removed from mound for injury, can he play another position?

I asked for LL specifically, but if there are any other variations for different governing bodies, that is useful as well.

Rich Ives Mon May 29, 2017 11:58am

In LL the pitcher is only required to pitch to the first batter he faces IN THE GAME. So for your returning pitcher - no he does not have to pitch.

In OBR if a pitcher goes out to warm up IN AN INNING he must pitch to the first batter of the inning.

Any new pitcher at any time must pitch to the first batter he faces.

NO ONE requires an injured pitcher to pitch.

bob jenkins Mon May 29, 2017 03:01pm

The NCAA rule is the same as the OBR rule.

The FED rule is the same as the LL rule.

Mountaincoach Mon May 29, 2017 06:13pm

I don't remember specifics, but many many years ago, we had a Little League team playing an all-star game somewhere. The team was using the first base dugout. The third baseman was ahead of the pitcher walking out onto the field. He picked up the ball and proceeded to goof off and throw a pitch from the mound to the catcher. As a result, the umpire required him to throw the first pitch of the inning. :) Needless to say, the coach told them to leave the game ball alone after that.

parrothead Mon May 29, 2017 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1006247)
In LL the pitcher is only required to pitch to the first batter he faces IN THE GAME. So for your returning pitcher - no he does not have to pitch.

In OBR if a pitcher goes out to warm up IN AN INNING he must pitch to the first batter of the inning.

Any new pitcher at any time must pitch to the first batter he faces.

NO ONE requires an injured pitcher to pitch.

What I meant to ask on the injury was are there any rules where an injury to pitcher restricts whether the P can play another position or must they be removed from lineup?

Rich Ives Mon May 29, 2017 09:53pm

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Originally Posted by parrothead (Post 1006266)
What I meant to ask on the injury was are there any rules where an injury to pitcher restricts whether the P can play another position or must they be removed from lineup?

No there's no restriction. But if he's too hurt to throw where are you going to put him that he doesn't have to throw?

Mbilica Tue May 30, 2017 07:49am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1006267)
No there's no restriction. But if he's too hurt to throw where are you going to put him that he doesn't have to throw?

1st base?

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parrothead Tue May 30, 2017 08:05am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1006267)
No there's no restriction. But if he's too hurt to throw where are you going to put him that he doesn't have to throw?

It was a game I was watching in our playoff tournament, it was leg not arm, then they proceeded to put him at SS where he said he was fine.

Rich Ives Tue May 30, 2017 09:40am

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Originally Posted by Mbilica (Post 1006275)
1st base?

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You kidding?

Mbilica Tue May 30, 2017 11:14am

1st basemen dont typically have to throw much. I would think you could put a kid there if his arm hurt.

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Rich Ives Tue May 30, 2017 11:25am

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Originally Posted by Mbilica (Post 1006289)
1st basemen don't typically have to throw much.

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Did when I played

Mountaincoach Tue May 30, 2017 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1006290)
Did when I played

True, but I agree 1st base is the place for a kid with a sore arm. At least they can catch the first out. Everybody else has to throw. Katy bar the door when it comes time to throw it anywhere else. :(

Rich Ives Tue May 30, 2017 01:50pm

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Originally Posted by Mountaincoach (Post 1006293)
True, but I agree 1st base is the place for a kid with a sore arm. At least they can catch the first out. Everybody else has to throw. Katy bar the door when it comes time to throw it anywhere else. :(

That needs clarification.

As for throwing:

Ground balls to IF between innings.

Relay on a ball in the RF corner.

Return throw on an attempted out at 1B.

Cut and throw on play at plate redirected to another base.

Throw to 2B when a runner goes on a pickoff and F1 throws to 1B (the normal play)

Throw to 1B after fielding a bunt.

Cross diamond throw on an infield out with a runner in jeopardy at 3B.

Throw home for a play at the plate.

Yep - not much throwing - not.

Injured? in LL as in the OP? Go sit with Mom.

Mountaincoach Tue May 30, 2017 08:07pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1006295)
That needs clarification.

As for throwing:

Ground balls to IF between innings.

Relay on a ball in the RF corner.

Return throw on an attempted out at 1B.

Cut and throw on play at plate redirected to another base.

Throw to 2B when a runner goes on a pickoff and F1 throws to 1B (the normal play)

Throw to 1B after fielding a bunt.

Cross diamond throw on an infield out with a runner in jeopardy at 3B.

Throw home for a play at the plate.

Yep - not much throwing - not.

Injured? in LL as in the OP? Go sit with Mom.

Really? I had no idea a first baseman did any of those things. Amazing. Thank you for that excellent explanation. :rolleyes: Why do I feel like I'm on an episode of "The Big Bang Theory", and Sheldon just responded to my statement. :rolleyes:

Rich Ives Wed May 31, 2017 09:41am

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Originally Posted by Mountaincoach (Post 1006307)
Really? I had no idea a first baseman did any of those things. Amazing. Thank you for that excellent explanation. :rolleyes: Why do I feel like I'm on an episode of "The Big Bang Theory", and Sheldon just responded to my statement. :rolleyes:

Why did you say "everybody else has to throw"? Certainly implies a first baseman deosn't have to throw.


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