Obstruction

[CorrectCall]

Runner slides into catcher's foot, which was blocking the plate, without catcher having possession of the ball. A tag is applied before runner touches home plate, but runner is ruled safe based on obstruction. Runner never actually touches the plate and returns to the dugout. Defensive teams appeals and runner is ruled out for failing to touch home plate. Offensive coach states that the runner was AWARED home on obstruction and, in this case, his runner would have touched home if the plate was not physically blocked. Is an out recorded on appeal or does the run score even though the plate was not touched by the obstructed runner?

[bob jenkins]

if the OBS is the proximate cause of the runner missing the base, then deny the appeal. This has nothing to do with the base being "awarded" to the runner.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by CorrectCall

Runner slides into catcher's foot, which was blocking the plate, without catcher having possession of the ball. A tag is applied before runner touches home plate, but runner is ruled safe based on obstruction. Runner never actually touches the plate and returns to the dugout. Defensive teams appeals and runner is ruled out for failing to touch home plate. Offensive coach states that the runner was AWARED home on obstruction and, in this case, his runner would have touched home if the plate was not physically blocked. Is an out recorded on appeal or does the run score even though the plate was not touched by the obstructed runner?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

if the OBS is the proximate cause of the runner missing the base, then deny the appeal. This has nothing to do with the base being "awarded" to the runner.

Bob:

I don't know about OBR and NCAA, but under NFHS awarded bases must still be touched and the appeal would be upheld.

MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

Not in my game (in the play presented).

I *think* there's some wording to the effect you mention in the book -- but it's intended (imo) to apply where Br is obstructed rounding first and is awarded third -- of course he must touch second or be liable to be out on appeal. It isn't meant to apply in situations like the OP.

[MD Longhorn]

In this play, home must be touched.

The J/R ruling regarding "if the OBS is the proximate cause of the runner missing the base," applies to cases like this:

Runner rounding first heading toward 2nd is prevented from touching first by F3, and continues to 2nd safely. Defense then appeals the miss at first.

[umpjim]

I think we would have to know how the umpire called the obstruction. If he called time "that's obstruction, you home" I think the runner would know to touch home. If he called "that's obstruction, safe" I would not allow the appeal.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Bob:

I don't know about OBR and NCAA, but under NFHS awarded bases must still be touched and the appeal would be upheld.

MTD, Sr.

Has FED gotten back to you regarding your query about a missed base due to obstruction?

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by umpjim

Has FED gotten back to you regarding your query about a missed base due to obstruction?

I don't know if FED has responded to Mark but I discovered this clip on the Arbiter NFHS website. If it doesn't play you probably need to be a member. But, it shows obstruction causing a miss of 3B and says to award the obstruction penalty but if the miss is appealed it will be an out. I would not call that particular play likethat in NCAA or OBR.
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[Matt]

Originally Posted by umpjim

I don't know if FED has responded to Mark but I discovered this clip on the Arbiter NFHS website. If it doesn't play you probably need to be a member. But, it shows obstruction causing a miss of 3B and says to award the obstruction penalty but if the miss is appealed it will be an out. I would not call that particular play likethat in NCAA or OBR.
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Why not? It's the right call in all of them.