Coach assist ends the game

[johnnyg08]

Prevents the tying run from scoring.

[rbmartin]

This was the correct and appropriate call.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

My question is: Why didn't the 3B Umpire not grant the defense's request for Timeout?

MTD, Sr.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

My question is: Why didn't the 3B Umpire not grant the defense's request for Timeout?

MTD, Sr.

Why should the ball be taken out of play?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Rich

Why should the ball be taken out of play?

From what I could see on the video, it appeared that all play had stopped, the ball was in the infield (I think it was in the possession of F1.), and most of the defensive players were attempting to return to their normal positions.

MTD, Sr.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

From what I could see on the video, it appeared that all play had stopped, the ball was in the infield (I think it was in the possession of F1.), and most of the defensive players were attempting to return to their normal positions.

MTD, Sr.

So why should you kill the ball? There are runners that can move up or be put out. Nobody seemed to want a time out to settle down the pitcher which would be a reason I would give it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

From what I could see on the video, it appeared that all play had stopped, the ball was in the infield (I think it was in the possession of F1.), and most of the defensive players were attempting to return to their normal positions.

MTD, Sr.

This isn't slow pitch softball. The ball remains live.

[Rich]

The pitcher must be on the pitcher's plate with a catcher in position in the catcher's box to receive a pitch.


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[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Rich

The pitcher must be on the pitcher's plate with a catcher in position in the catcher's box to receive a pitch.


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That's when a runner can't leave his base. You can't freeze a play by stepping on the rubber. Not applicable in the video though. Pitcher didn't take the rubber. Interesting question if the pitcher had taken the rubber and the coach didn't see it and assisted whether we have an out. Normally an out would stand on a runner that leaves early.

[bwburke94]

Non-umpire rules question: Is the LL rule different from higher levels in terms of what contact is disallowed?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

Non-umpire rules question: Is the LL rule different from higher levels in terms of what contact is disallowed?

Contact is not disallowed at any level on a play like this.

ASSISTANCE is not allowed on any level on a play like this.

Contact that tells a player when to run has always been considered assistance.

[DG]

Two things. One, I don't know why F5 didn't just tag R2 to end the game. Two, I used to run an end of practice drill every practice for about 8 minutes. Everyone lines up at 3B and one at a time we practice "GO" and "STOP". If they were not tired before the drill, they were after. During games I did not need to get anywhere near a runner to get one to GO or STOP.

[Rich]

No difference at any level.


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[rbmartin]

In a non-FED game is this a delayed dead ball or immediate?

[bob jenkins]

If by "non-FED" you mean OBR, it's neither delayed dead not immediately dead. The assisted runner is out, and the rest of the play (advances or outs by other runners) stands.

(As a practical matter, in less-than-pro ball, you will likely have to call taime at the end to explain what happened.)