PSU/Purdue Big Ten Officials may be Fired

[jimpiano]

What calls were involved are not specified but :http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/.../949483-p.html

[Sonofanump]

I did not see the game, anyone remember any calls that stood out?

[TXMike]

Tiller puzzled by several calls in loss to Penn State

Associated Press - November 7, 2007

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. (AP) - Several calls in last week's loss to Penn State left Purdue coach Joe Tiller scratching his head.

Receiver Selwyn Lymon appeared to catch a touchdown pass from Curtis Painter, but it was ruled incomplete. Purdue ended up settling for a field goal.

Lymon also caught a pass and ran out of bounds, but the official kept the clock running. The Boilermakers were forced to call a timeout with 2:10 to play, one they could have used later while trying to drive for a tie.

Tiller says he's talked to the Big Ten office about the calls. But he's watching what he says in public.

He says he finds himself mentally correcting himself and trying to make sure he doesn't say anything inappropriate.

[JugglingReferee]

It says that the crew is working this weekend, but that the crew will be suspended for games on Nov 17, and some of the crew may be fired?

And they're supposed to work their best this weekend knowing that next weekend they will be suspended and possibly lose their job after that?

There's a great way to boost morale: publicize this crap. Just more proof that other people's dirty laundry belongs nowhere in the public eye.

Why can't this stuff stay private where it belongs?

I, as a member of the public, only care when good things happen to people!

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It says that the crew is working this weekend, but that the crew will be suspended for games on Nov 17, and some of the crew may be fired?

And they're supposed to work their best this weekend knowing that next weekend they will be suspended and possibly lose their job after that?

There's a great way to boost morale: publicize this crap. Just more proof that other people's dirty laundry belongs nowhere in the public eye.

Why can't this stuff stay private where it belongs?

I, as a member of the public, only care when good things happen to people!

And when "bad things" happen you prefer not to know?

[TXMike]

Worst call I have seen talked about was late in the game a Purdue receiver caught a pass close to the sideline and then stepped out of bounds to stop the clock but covering official would it, apparently ruling "forward progress". I am looking for the video of it.

[reddevil19]

Originally Posted by TXMike

Worst call I have seen talked about was late in the game a Purdue receiver caught a pass close to the sideline and then stepped out of bounds to stop the clock but covering official would it, apparently ruling "forward progress". I am looking for the video of it.

I saw this play. The receiver did not run out of bounds forwards. He caught the ball coming back and went out of bounds running backwards. Doesn't the clock continue to run if you go out of bounds backwards?

[Kirby]

Not if the player goes out of bounds on his own with no contact from a defensive player.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

And when "bad things" happen you prefer not to know?

Correct; at least not in this case. It doesn't affect public safety. I don't see what good it does either. How about this:

Does your employer publish a news article when you make a mistake?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Correct; at least not in this case. It doesn't affect public safety. I don't see what good it does either. How about this:

Does your employer publish a news article when you make a mistake?

You are going to have to come to grips with the fact that officials' mistakes happen in front of millions of people. The integrity of the sport depends on players and fans knowing the officials are the best the league can employ.

A coach with a losing record is also no threat to public safety, but when he gets fired it usually is published and broadcast to the world.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

You are going to have to come to grips with the fact that officials' mistakes happen in front of millions of people. The integrity of the sport depends on players and fans knowing the officials are the best the league can employ.

A coach with a losing record is also no threat to public safety, but when he gets fired it usually is published and broadcast to the world.

Ya thanks bud. Thanks for explaining it to me.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by GarthB

That has nothing to do with the idiotic practice of publicly notifying a crew that they will all be suspended and some fired and then sending them out expecting them to do a great job with teams, coaches and fans all knowing the details.

They either should have waited to announce the punishments or suspended them immediately.

And they sent the crew to the Ohio State-Illinois game. At least they went to a game that meant nothing, eh?

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by GarthB

That has nothing to do with the idiotic practice of publicly notifying a crew that they will all be suspended and some fired and then sending them out expecting them to do a great job with teams, coaches and fans all knowing the details.

They either should have waited to announce the punishments or suspended them immediately.

I don't think the punishments were "announced" but rather "leaked". Huge difference!! It would be great if the leaker could be found and dealt with but we need to be clear that the conference did not put this info out there. I don't think any major conference would be that ignorant to announce a suspension and trhen send the same guys to one of the biggest games the conference has that year.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Does your employer publish a news article when you make a mistake?

80,000 people don't normally watch me work live, with hundreds of thousands more watching live on TV, with tons of actual money wagered (legally or illegally) on my work product.

Sad but true. Any analogies of jobs in the "real world" to officiating really don't hold water.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

80,000 people don't normally watch me work live, with hundreds of thousands more watching live on TV, with tons of actual money wagered (legally or illegally) on my work product.

Sad but true. Any analogies of jobs in the "real world" to officiating really don't hold water.

In the corporate world, performance is the only thing that matters. If I don't perform, I am axed. However, before that happens, there is not a notice sent to 1 million shareholders.

I can't imagine that employee morale stays up if 500,000 shareholders are told that Mr. John Doe from the Springfield, MO facility will be fired unless he meets the next quarterly goal.

JMHO.