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Originally Posted by JRutledge
His so-called arm-bar did not affect anything. He was getting his arm mostly out of the way. That is not how it is expected to be called from my point of view.
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Originally Posted by Mr.C
I've never seen anything close to #1 at HS or NCAA-----happens all the time at middle school, they must teach it at practice. I didn't think the defensive arm hindered the dribbler before the push off.
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I am just telling you that this is not a play I hear any grief about because the defender was retreating his arm and not using it in any way. Never have I called a foul that close as you suggest in college or high school. If the defender kept his arm out from his body then yes I would agree it was a foul, but that is not what happened.
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My point was that he pushoff was very weak and was preceded by a play that has been clearly defined as an automatic foul, even if it too was weak. No way I'm calling THAT pushoff and not calling the armbar before it.....but I'm probably not calling amrbar for the reasons stated and, thus, I'm not calling the pushoff. It would be completely unfair to the offensive player too call his contact a foul in the presence of the defensive armbar, even if it was a soft one.