[schmelzer988]

Originally Posted by SubPlayer

Thank you for the replies folks.
These are pickup games, so there are 10 refs on the court, none with whistles.

I have read the pertinent NCAA rules and I used to coach HS ball in the 90's.
Which means I am just smart enough to be very stupid.
I don't see where such a tactic is illegal.

Is it illegal for the player to extend their stomach forward to make FIRST contact?
It doesn't violate the first NFHS legal guarding quote above (the feet are set, the defender is facing the offensive player).
The NFHS maintaining a legal guarding quote does have a possible violation:
c. The guard may move laterally or obliquely to maintain position, provided it is not toward the opponent when contact occurs.
However, the stomach moving forward is actually PRIOR to first contact. After that, the defender does not repeatedly hammer the other player with their stomach. The player is not moving forward when MAINTAINING their guarding position.


To me, the key points are that the defender is facing the offensive player, and the defender has set their feet. When the two players contact, they meet "in the numbers", meaning that the defender is not moving laterally into the path of the offensive player. Additionally, the defender is not leaning side-to-side. However, the defender is leaning forward (from the feet up to the waist). The defender's arms are back and never in contact.

I don't think it is illegal for the defender's stomach to be moving forward to establish the first point of contact.

In my league days, I instructed my players in this tactic. We didn't get an inordinate number of whistles.

If this is a charging or blocking foul, what exactly is the defender doing that is illegal?


Thanks again,

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