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Originally Posted by Adam
No other subs may enter until that sub has been beckoned in.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins
You do not admit other subs until the replacement player has been beckoned in.
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After researching the statement "do not admit other subs until the replacement player has been beckoned in" over the weekend, I have come to the conclusion that this rule doesn't really exist.
Keep I mind that I originally thought that it did exist, and simply wanted a citation to hang my hat on. Without a current rulebook citation, and without a current casebook citation, to back up the statement, and with two annual interpretations (below), one as recent as seven years ago, that refute that statement, I have changed my mind, and have concluded that the rule really doesn't exist, and, if it's not illegal, then it's legal.
2007-08 Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 1: B1 is injured to the point that bench personnel are beckoned to the court. After B1 has been safely moved to the bench, Team B's head coach is notified that a substitute is required and instructs the timer to begin the 20-second replacement interval. Just as the interval begins, two substitutes from Team A approach the scorer's table to enter the game. RULING: Substitutes from either team may enter the game during this dead-ball period until the officials are ready to put the ball in play. The replacement interval is only for the substitute required for B1. If an eligible substitute does not report for B1 by the end of 20 seconds, a technical foul is assessed directly to the Team B head coach. (3-3-1laed ot red; 3-3-5; 10-5-3 Penalty)
2003-04 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 3: A5 is called for a fifth foul. The proper official notifies the head coach and instructs the timer to begin timing the replacement interval. After the 20-second warning horn and before the required substitute for A5 approaches the scorer’s table, (a) B6 and B7 report to the official scorer; (b) A6, who is replacing A1 reports to the official scorer; or (c) A3 requests a time-out. RULING: In (a) and (b), the properly reported substitutes shall be permitted to enter the game. In (c), a time-out shall not be granted while a replacement for A5 is pending. (3-3-1d; 5-8-3b)
I believe that the reason why some, including me, initially believed that the statement "do not admit other subs until the replacement player has been beckoned in" was correct, was that they were confusing it with a similar statement, also involving a replacement player, "do not grant any timeouts until the replacement player has been beckoned in". This is a real rule:
5-8-3b: Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official:
Grants a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out,
such request being granted only when: The ball is dead, unless replacement of a disqualified, or injured player(s),
or a player directed to leave the game is pending, and a substitute(s) is
available and required.
Another cause of confusion was the following rule:
3-3-1-C-Exception:
A substitute who desires to enter shall report to the scorer, giving his/her number.
c. During multiple free throws resulting from personal fouls, substitutions may be made only
before the final attempt in the sequence and after the final attempt has been converted.
EXCEPTION: When a player is required by rule to be replaced prior to administering the free
throw(s), then all other substitutes who have legally reported may also enter the game.
This exception is only for multiple free throws. If we have substitutes waiting at the table when a two shot foul is called, they normally have to wait until after the first shot. However, if said foul causes a player to be disqualified, then all (existing substitutes, and replacement for disqualified player) can enter before the first free throw.
This rule (above) must not be generalized to mean "do not admit other subs until the replacement player has been beckoned in".
The only fly in the ointment that I can see is this twelve year old annual interpretation:
2002-03 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 3: A1 fouls out of the game. The Team A coach talks to a substitute and within 15 seconds sends the substitute to the table to report in the game. A Team B player then requests a time-out. RULING: Since a time-out may not be granted until a disqualified player is replaced, the administering official should ask the substitute at the table if he/she is the replacement for A1. If so, the time-out may be granted. If not, the substitute shall remain at the table and the coach must still replace A1 within the specified time frame before the time-out may be granted. (3-3-1;10-5-1d; 5-8-3b)
There are two problems with this annual interpretation, one minor, and one major. The first is that it's complicated by a request for a timeout. The second is that this twelve year old interpretation has been "replaced" by two newer interpretations (above).
Can we put this to bed now?