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Originally posted by Gee
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Originally posted by Carl Childress
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Originally posted by Shmuelg
Excellet call, Gee.
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The BRD section 419 carries an official interpretation from Mike Fitzpatrick, head of PBUC: If a runner tries to return to a previously occupied base after the pitcher has the ball on the pitcher's plate, the umpire will warn him. If he persists, he is out. Above all, the umpire must not permit the defense to play on the runner.
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C2,
I have a problem with that Minor League ruling in an OBR game.
Situation:
OBR.
Batter hits a triple and is now on third. The ball comes into F4 at second and defensive coach calls time out and goes to talk to the pitcher. R3 knows he missed second and assumes the meeting is for an appeal at second.
Once the pitcher is set and play is called R3 darts back to second. Pitcher, in his haste, throws the ball into center field. R3 (re)tags second and ends up at third and your going to call him out? I know I'd have trouble doing that.
The only way I have an out on that play is if defense tags second base when the ball comes in as the retag was not allowed and I would negate R3's attempt or if the defense makes another proper appeal I would allow it for the out. Other than that I have nothing. G
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Ok, is it that the interpretation is for the minor leagues, or is it you don't approve of OBR used in non-OBR games?
Here's what Evans says about it: "Umpires should be alert and declare out any runner who should return to his
previous base after the pitcher has assumed his position on the rubber. This could most logically happen when the runner felt that he "left too soon" on a tag-up and
would attempt to return before an appeal was made on him."
Here's what J/R says about it: "Once a pitcher is in contact with the rubber a runner, regardless of purpose, cannot return beyond his occupied base. If he attempts to do so, he is declared out."
That's four authorities, all who say that a runner is out when he returns to a base after the pitcher is in position on the rubber: Fitzpatrick, Evans, Roder, Childress.
Can all four of us be wrong?