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Old Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:02pm
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Originally Posted by Rich View Post
Honestly, I thought initially he missed the rotation at the other end. One the ball goes in the bucket, the new T and L have that covered and he could get down the floor a smidge earlier, I think. With such little time left, it would've been better to receive that play from a stationary position.

But you're right -- he covered the ground well.

It's likely a foul, but I'm trying to give the L the benefit of the doubt. Since he's not giving himself the benefit of the doubt, however....
If we aren't are own worst critics then we are doing something wrong IMO. You are correct that I picked up the rotation late. I was locked in on #32- the #1 HS girls player in the country BTW- as I knew the possession was going to run through her.

I noticed the rotation after the shot and in trying to transition from C to new L I took a step too far back and ran into the media table and temporarily lost my balance.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
I got my times by using a stopwatch while watching the video multiple times. A luxury which you didn't have.

We agree on where you should have stopped for the best possible look. However, sometimes when sprinting full speed in an effort to hustle and cover the action an official will actually overrun the play and take himself out of position. It is not uncommon. I marvel at how the NBA guys don't do that more frequently in transition given the speed of the players they are observing. Perhaps it has to do with how little space is available to them on the end lines due to cheerleaders, TV cameras, and photographers. They may be conditioned to pull up sooner.

In my opinion, the most important thing you can take from this experience is how the crew handled restoring time to the clock. Given that the NFHS rule has 0.3 seconds as the cutoff for try versus tap, you need to have high certainty when making a decision which is right on that border. As you saw in this game, it can make a major impact. If you have a doubt, then I would recommend erring on the side of at least 0.4 going back up.
I agree on all acounts. Great point about overrunning the play. I agree that I should have stopped at the endline, which may have led to a better look.

As far as putting time back on the clock. I asked my partners and one said very definitively that he had 0.3. Knowing the situation and also knowing I was a little late on my whistle after the ball bounced out I should have gone at least 0.4.

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Originally Posted by Rich View Post
I have a mentality on fast breaks as the C -- I sell out and get the best look that I can at the play at the rim. I don't care if it takes me near the end line to get that look.

I don't think the C in your play did that.
He did not. And that was talked about as well by other officials after the game.

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Originally Posted by nolanjj68 View Post
VaTerp I missed that foul on my first pass of the video (real-time). Only on the second pass did I see the foul. Don't beat yourself up too much.
I appreciate it. I'm just trying to get better like most of us.

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Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
I do not have a foul on the shot. I have a blocked shot that might have some incidental contact after the ball was contacted. That is not a foul to me and the lead has a great look at it. I have no problem with his angle on the play at all. He is receiving the play as we teach officials to do. He has the best overall angle. The camera angle does not totally help either way if you ask me.

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I appreciate your thoughts as well. Live, I thought I had a pretty good look and saw mostly what you saw. However, after the game I talked to at least 7 state level officials, assigners, and/or evaluators. They all had the opposite angle from the video in the thread. And they all had W3 coming across the arm.

I would not feel as bad if we had not called way more fouls than I would have liked in the game and shot 54 FTs.

If you get a chance, JRut I'd like to see the other video link I shared posted as well. Its a different camera angle and also captures what happened after we put time back on the clock.
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