do we reset the clock

[JS 20]

Beginning of the game last night. Two person crew and I'm the U. Jump ball goes up and is tipped opposite me, right down the division line. I chop when the jumper's touch it. It hits someone but i can't see who and neither can my partner so we rejump. I had the timer reset the clock to 6:00 (jv game). Second jump ball, jumpers touch simultaneously and send the ball down the division line and out OB opposite me. So we jump again and again I reset the clock. Was it right to reset the clock in both situations?

[Gimlet25id]

Originally Posted by JS 20

Beginning of the game last night. Two person crew and I'm the U. Jump ball goes up and is tipped opposite me, right down the division line. I chop when the jumper's touch it. It hits someone but i can't see who and neither can my partner so we rejump. I had the timer reset the clock to 6:00 (jv game). Second jump ball, jumpers touch simultaneously and send the ball down the division line and out OB opposite me. So we jump again and again I reset the clock. Was it right to reset the clock in both situations?

I'm assuming the ball went OOB. Anyway unless there was a clock malfunction you should have left the clock alone. Really no rule provision that would allow you to reset the clock unless it malfunctioned (I.E Clock running when it shouldn't or not running when it should)

Time ran off is time ran off!!!

[kbilla]

Assuming you recognize that you shouldn't have chopped when the jumpers touched the ball...if done correctly, you would have chopped when it hit "someone", and the clock would have run....BUT, I suppose you would have to have definite knowledge of how much time ran off from the time the ball was touched to the time it went out of bounds in order to reset it at all...othewise I would have left it where it was even though I chopped when I shouldn't have - you must have definite knowledge to reset the clock to anything. From there, on the second jump ball, if the clock moved at all you could have reset it to where it was before you threw the second jump since you have definite knowledge that it shouldn't have run at all...

[chartrusepengui]

Are you kiddin me - 6 minute quarters for JV?

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Are you kiddin me - 6 minute quarters for JV?

Yeah that is pretty pathetic, as I recall they run 8 in IL?? They even run 7 for the underclass stuff!

[JS 20]

Yeah i thought i F'd it up. Crap.

and yes it went OB the first time as well.

[Gimlet25id]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Assuming you recognize that you shouldn't have chopped when the jumpers touched the ball...if done correctly, you would have chopped when it hit "someone", and the clock would have run...

What??? You mean you wouldn't chop the clock until the ball was touched by someone other then the jumper?

[kbilla]

Speaking of which, what is the OT period in a 7 minute game? I have not had one in years since I haven't done much underclass stuff lately, but I do have a few on my schedule this year...is it 3 mins?

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Yeah that is pretty pathetic, as I recall they run 8 in IL?? They even run 7 for the underclass stuff!

we've been doing 8 for JV/V 7 frosh and even some MS 6 for 6th and below. no wonder some of you guys can do so many games in one night

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by JS 20

Was it right to reset the clock in both situations?

No.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Assuming you recognize that you shouldn't have chopped when the jumpers touched the ball...if done correctly, you would have chopped when it hit "someone",

You're saying that you don't start the clock until someone other than the jumpers touch the ball?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Speaking of which, what is the OT period in a 7 minute game? I have not had one in years since I haven't done much underclass stuff lately, but I do have a few on my schedule this year...is it 3 mins?

Half the time of a quarter: 3 and 1/2 minutes

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Speaking of which, what is the OT period in a 7 minute game? I have not had one in years since I haven't done much underclass stuff lately, but I do have a few on my schedule this year...is it 3 mins?

4 minutes

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You're saying that you don't start the clock until someone other than the jumpers touch the ball?

Thats the way I was taught long ago...however, it's not exactly something that is covered frequently, and I don't see it in the NF rulebook or casebook, so if someone has evidence to the contrary I'd be willing to listen...

[Gimlet25id]

Originally Posted by kbilla

I suppose you would have to have definite knowledge of how much time ran off from the time the ball was touched to the time it went out of bounds in order to reset it at all...othewise I would have left it where it was even though I chopped when I shouldn't have - you must have definite knowledge to reset the clock to anything. From there, on the second jump ball, if the clock moved at all you could have reset it to where it was before you threw the second jump since you have definite knowledge that it shouldn't have run at all...

First of all you chop the clock as soon as the ball is legally touched...Rule 5-9-2..."If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched."

As soon as one of the jumpers touch the ball it is legally touched!

Not sure why you would need to know how much time ran off from the time it was touched to when it went OOB. The only time you might have to reset the clock on a jump ball is if the ball is tossed and neither player touches the ball before it hits the floor & the clock starts to run. You would re jump with a reset clock then.