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Old Wed Aug 20, 2014, 05:33pm
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Timeout request after request for serve

Case book 11.2.1 sit A states that requests after signal to serve are denied and a Replay (should be reserve) is granted. I does not specify that there is a penalty.

This action delays the game, but an UD would be a timeout in this case, which is what the coach wants in one scenario.

I find it odd NFHS rules do not penalize this, but a mere request (not recognized) for a 3rd timeout is a point/loss of rally. I saw a state semifinal end this way....not pretty.


And as far as that goes. Looking at all the things that REQUIRE the issue of UD's. I assume that just tons of them are being issued. So, looking at the list of of actions in rule 9-9 that "require" a UD penalty....how many UD's are you administering per match?

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Old Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:52pm
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I thought once the arm went up for beckon the sub zone closed and then any entries after that would go straight to unnecessary delay
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:49pm
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Rule 9.9 lists the UD's.....maybe it is somewhere else. I have not seen it yet.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:17pm
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I thought once the arm went up for beckon the sub zone closed and then any entries after that would go straight to unnecessary delay
Which would mean you would stop play and administer a timeout if the team had one?
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2014, 11:48pm
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exactly-and if a timeout was not available you have a point/side out to the other team.
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Old Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:42pm
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exactly-and if a timeout was not available you have a point/side out to the other team.
So, you penalize the team for requesting a timeout by giving them a timeout?
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Old Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:46pm
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Interesting question. Looked it up.

NFHS case book

11.2.1 Ruling (a) and (b) replay, time-out and substitution not granted. Comment: Since the coach's actions distracted the opponent's serve,a replay is directed by the R1.

So it's just like a denied request. Play on until the next dead ball.

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Old Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:58pm
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And as far as that goes. Looking at all the things that REQUIRE the issue of UD's. I assume that just tons of them are being issued. So, looking at the list of of actions in rule 9-9 that "require" a UD penalty....how many UD's are you administering per match?
I have't issued very many UD's . Maybe 2 or 3 in the last 2 years. And that was for really bad libero exchanges after the coach was told nicely to make sure your players exchange properly. Our supervisor is huge on preventative officiating.
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