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Old Wed Nov 21, 2007, 02:59pm
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15.2.4.1 Encroachment into the opponent’s court with the foot, feet or
hand(s) is permitted, provided some part of the encroaching extremity
remains in contact with or directly above the center line, and there is
no interference with opponents. It is not a fault to contact the opponent’s
team court with the hair.
15.2.4.2 Encroachment into the opponent’s court with any part(s) of the
body is permitted, provided some part of the body remains either in
contact with or directly above the center line, and there is no interference
with opponents. In addition, completely crossing the center line with
the foot, feet or hands, or encroachment with other body parts must not
present a safety hazard to opponents.
Why is 15.2.4.1 in the book? Doesn't 15.2.4.2 sort of overrule it? (1) says you can have a hand or foot over the line as long as part of that hand or foot stays over the line. But (2) says that your whole body can be over the line as long as ANY part of your body stays on or over the line.

So what's the point of talking about a hand or foot, if it's ok to put your whole body across?

I called a girl early in the season for stepping completely across the line with one foot. No part of her foot was on or above the center line. My partner told me that wasn't right. But isn't that exactly what (1) says?
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Old Wed Nov 21, 2007, 04:42pm
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Scrapper1, it is not a choice of one or the other. Both are in effect and used when applicable.
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Old Thu Nov 22, 2007, 03:39am
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Scrapper1, it is not a choice of one or the other. Both are in effect and used when applicable.
Huh? Would you please explain the difference between the two, and why 15.2.4.1 exists at all considering 15.2.4.2 seems to completely encompass everything covered in 15.2.4.1 and go beyond it. Can you give me a scenario where 15.2.4.1 is applicable, but 15.2.4.2 is not?
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 09:36am
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Huh? Would you please explain the difference between the two, and why 15.2.4.1 exists at all considering 15.2.4.2 seems to completely encompass everything covered in 15.2.4.1 and go beyond it. Can you give me a scenario where 15.2.4.1 is applicable, but 15.2.4.2 is not?
I find the lack of response to this question. . . interesting.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 10:12am
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I'll check with Marcia Alterman, NCAA Rules Interpreter, and let you know what she says.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 11:22am
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Marcia's Answer:

I'll paraphrase:

15.2.4.1: If the foot or hand go beyond the center line, if part of the hand or foot are above or on the center line, there is no violation if there is no interference. Whether or not there is a safety hazard makes no difference at all, so long as the hand or foot is on or above the line (again, so long as there is no interference).

now, if the hand or foot goes beyond the line, 15.2.4.2 kicks in...

15.2.4.2: Body part is beyond the center line, now safety considerations are taken into account, and you can call a violation based on safety concerns. If there is no body part on or above the center line, a fault occurs regardless of safety concerns.

Hope that makes sense.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 05:02pm
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Yep, that makes sense. Thanks, Felix.
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