Delay?

[Scrapper1]

USAV rules at AAU Junior Nationals. I'm R2 in this situation. R1 blows the whistle and beckons for serve. Clearly after the beckon, the team to my right sends a player into the substitution zone. I quickly motion the player away and tell the coach, "No sub! No sub! He's already beckoned".

At this point, the R1 blows the whistle and waves the sub back to the bench. He then immediately issues a delay warning. (Not an improper request.)

Seems to me, the R1 created the delay by blowing the whistle to stop the serve. We could've just played the point and given an improper request at the end of the play. So (1) should the R1 stop play in this situation; and (2) if the R1 does stop the play, do we have to issue the yellow for delay?

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

USAV rules at AAU Junior Nationals. I'm R2 in this situation. R1 blows the whistle and beckons for serve. Clearly after the beckon, the team to my right sends a player into the substitution zone. I quickly motion the player away and tell the coach, "No sub! No sub! He's already beckoned".

At this point, the R1 blows the whistle and waves the sub back to the bench. He then immediately issues a delay warning. (Not an improper request.)

Seems to me, the R1 created the delay by blowing the whistle to stop the serve. We could've just played the point and given an improper request at the end of the play. So (1) should the R1 stop play in this situation; and (2) if the R1 does stop the play, do we have to issue the yellow for delay?

My thoughts:
1) No
2) Yes, since the request was acknowledged. Incorrectly, and not by correct protocol, but yes, acknowledged, so DW is warranted.

Remember, not all the refs at that tournament are USAV certified, and may not know the nuances of how to properly/best handle these situations.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by FMadera

Remember, not all the refs at that tournament are USAV certified.

Boy, is that true. I've worked with some pretty good officials, but I've also worked with an official in her 2nd season, and a couple college-aged kids who just got certified. It presents challenges.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Boy, is that true. I've worked with some pretty good officials, but I've also worked with an official in her 2nd season, and a couple college-aged kids who just got certified. It presents challenges.

If we worked together at that, you'd have to school me on USAV-specific rules.