Another Line Judge Question

[Tony.oe4]

I line judged a high school Sectional match last year in Illinois (NHFS). I was L2. The ball was hit and landed on inside of my sideline but clearly past the end line. My partner signaled in. I am 100% positive it was out. Is there anything I should do as a line judge since I am not supposed to call my partner's endline?

The result was the R1 called the ball in but I could tell by her reaction that she questioned the L1's call.

[timasdf]

Originally Posted by Tony.oe4

I line judged a high school Sectional match last year in Illinois (NHFS). I was L2. The ball was hit and landed on inside of my sideline but clearly past the end line. My partner signaled in. I am 100% positive it was out. Is there anything I should do as a line judge since I am not supposed to call my partner's endline?

The result was the R1 called the ball in but I could tell by her reaction that she questioned the L1's call.

Each LJ should make his/her call independently.

In this case, you should each call your line as you see it. In an example similar to this, it's entirely possible that BOTH of you make the right call from your positions...and each have different signals (one says in, one says out).

Assuming that both LJs are making their correct calls, the R1 would then correctly rule "out."

[Tony.oe4]

Tim, your answer makes sense if both LJs call his/her line correctly. What I am asking is if am 100% positive that my partner missed the call, is there anything I should do? In full disclosure, for this particular call, I could tell my partner was not focused as his/her flag was delayed and his/her head turned to look at the line after I already made my line call which means my partner could not have seen the the ball land.

[timasdf]

Originally Posted by Tony.oe4

Tim, your answer makes sense if both LJs call his/her line correctly. What I am asking is if am 100% positive that my partner missed the call, is there anything I should do?

Nope!

There is nothing you can do. Best to hope that the R1 will make the correct decision on this one.

As an aside...One time, when I was working as LJ in the West Coast Conference, I was (incorrectly!) overruled. My affirmation was when *ALL* of the coaches and players came unglued about the overrule. No...it wasn't just complaints about a call not going their way. Everyone immediately went crazy.

In the post-match, the R1 told me something to the effect of "oops. I guess I got that one wrong." :-)


Another situation as LJ (from the time when serves couldn't touch the net):

The served ball definitely touched the net. One of nets those where the white "wrapper" over the cable wasn't flush with the top cable across the entire net.

The ball touched the white wrapper. The R1 didn't feel it (hand on net cable). I saw it as LJ. Coaches and players near me also saw it and complained.

Since it's not part of the LJ duties, I did nothing. R1 (correctly, by rule) didn't ask me, either.

[Tony.oe4]

Thanks Tim. That is what I thought but I wanted to make sure.

[Scrapper1]

My question is how you could be 100% sure of the line call on the far endline? It would have to be 3-6 feet OOB in order to be 100% sure from the LJ2 position, right? And if it was SO far out that you really are 100%, how could the R1 NOT also know?

I'm honestly not trying to be critical, so I hope it doesn't sound that way. I'm just trying to picture from my own experience if I could be 100% sure of that call.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Tony.oe4

I line judged a high school Sectional match last year in Illinois (NHFS). I was L2. The ball was hit and landed on inside of my sideline but clearly past the end line. My partner signaled in. I am 100% positive it was out. Is there anything I should do as a line judge since I am not supposed to call my partner's endline?

The result was the R1 called the ball in but I could tell by her reaction that she questioned the L1's call.

I had a very similar situation to this yesterday at a HS regular seasoning ending tourney. Losing team had to stay and work table and lines.

Ball is hit down the line. Ball hits the hash mark beyond the end line. on the end line calls it in. LJ on the sideline knows it is long and calls it out.

Thankfully, as the R1 I had an out call as well.

Only 1 player on the attacking team even questioned it a little bit.

During the time out I reminded the LJ to call her lines only, not the other LJ lines. She smirked and walked away.

I guess that's what you get when you have sandel wearing LJ's who are pissed about losing the in their first round playoff match in the third 20-18.