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CecilOne Thu Jul 02, 2015 04:55pm
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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 964419)
I think there's somewhat of a shared understanding that this is the right way to do it. But I don't think the book says that.
Fine, and the book says that steals from 2nd to 3rd are PU call. We do not do that, unless the BU is far away covering R2.
It is all from pre-game, AFAIK BU covers 3rd when:
last runner on batted ball
play at 3rd when it is the first play from the infield
steal of 3rd
pickoff at 3rd
runner from 2nd on a tag up
PU has a play at the plate or is trapped

youngump Thu Jul 02, 2015 05:08pm
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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 964420)
Fine, and the book says that steals from 2nd to 3rd are PU call.
Really, where is that?

CecilOne Thu Jul 02, 2015 05:19pm
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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 964421)
Really, where is that?
Stealing mechanics, third or fourth para.; page 24x.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Jul 02, 2015 08:34pm
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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 964417)
Runner on 1st, steal of 2nd, runner advances to third. Who has the call per the book?

;) Irish argues that nobody should call it, and I argue that we should start with batted ball mechanics and then discard them by communicating with each other. :D Seriously though, my contention earlier that it is in the book comes from trying to find the closest fit and going with that but I agree it's a long stretch. I'm just not sure that there's anything better.
I have always been in the corner of the PU making this call. As I was trained years ago and as I instructed in multiple schools and clinics, the PU has the call at 3rd in this situation. The plate umpire has the time and unobstructed access to 3rd base.

Tru_in_Blu Thu Jul 02, 2015 09:39pm
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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 964422)
Stealing mechanics, third or fourth para.; page 24x.
Stealing mechanics is on page 38 of my Umpire Manual Supplement. And it is specific to Slow Pitch.


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