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Old Sat Jun 13, 2015, 11:38am
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This catcher already has a college softball scholarship lined up it seems.

If that program had any integrity, she'd be looking for a new place to play about now.

As for the umpiring -- what's the mechanic for 4-man (knowing that no real softball actually does 4-man)? Would U2 chase, U3 cover second, the PU cover third, and U1 cover the plate? That would be the baseball rotation when U2 goes out, but I know nothing about softball, having not umpired a softball game since the late 90s.

Well, I know that's a cheap shot (actually, two) by the catcher.
From what I heard, she is (maybe was) a verbal to Sam Houston St. I can't confirm that as it came from another board. Either way I would be taking a serious look at her and how she fits with the values of my program if I was a coach. Thankfully for the school, as a verbal commitment there is no obligation on either party to follow through. Hopefully this catcher learns a lesson from this and doesn't become another Jayru Campbell.

For those who don't know the Jayru Campbell story. He was offered a scholarship to play QB at MSU very early after leading Detroit Cass Tech to a couple state titles. He punched a player for Detroit Catholic Central in the handshake line after the state title game and IIRC was suspended one game or two. He then went on to body slam a security guard at the school who tried getting him to remove his hoody in school. He was arrested and spent several months in jail. When he was released he was immediately reinstated at Cass Tech (in violation of Michigan State Law). On his first day back he got into an altercation with his girl friend and was arrested for domestic violence in the school. MSU pulled his scholarship offer and now he may be headed to the New Mexico Military Institute. Hopefully they can straighten him out. They do have a history of QB success as they also produced a young man by the name of Roger Staubach, who later won a Heisman Trophy at Navy.
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Old Sat Jun 13, 2015, 12:06pm
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For those who don't know the Jayru Campbell story. He was offered a scholarship to play QB at MSU very early after leading Detroit Cass Tech to a couple state titles. He punched a player for Detroit Catholic Central in the handshake line after the state title game and IIRC was suspended one game or two. He then went on to body slam a security guard at the school who tried getting him to remove his hoody in school. He was arrested and spent several months in jail. When he was released he was immediately reinstated at Cass Tech (in violation of Michigan State Law). On his first day back he got into an altercation with his girl friend and was arrested for domestic violence in the school. MSU pulled his scholarship offer and now he may be headed to the New Mexico Military Institute. Hopefully they can straighten him out. They do have a history of QB success as they also produced a young man by the name of Roger Staubach, who later won a Heisman Trophy at Navy.
It took three instances of being a dirt-bag and jail time before MSU decided to pull the offer?

That tells me just as much about MSU's lack of integrity as it does the player's.
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Old Sun Jun 14, 2015, 10:25pm
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It took three instances of being a dirt-bag and jail time before MSU decided to pull the offer?

That tells me just as much about MSU's lack of integrity as it does the player's.
Actually I think the scholarship was pulled after the body slamming incident. The Domestic Violence at the school occurred after the scholarship was pulled, but I'm sure it really turned off a lot of programs who are more dirtbagish than MSU and there are some (I'm a Michigan fan).
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Old Sun Jun 14, 2015, 10:44pm
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I think it is cute that anyone believes that the American attention span would last long enough that this incident will be remembered in a year when this girl can sign her actual letter of intent.

I is also cute that we, the people involved in the sport, think that there is as much attention paid to our sport as we think there is.

In a year, this girl will be sitting in the third row of athletes behind a table signing her letter with a bunch of , Football, and basketball players in the spot light and no one will even know who she is, let alone what she did in a game on the internet during two plays.
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Old Mon Jun 15, 2015, 07:22am
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I think it is cute that anyone believes that the American attention span would last long enough that this incident will be remembered in a year when this girl can sign her actual letter of intent.
It depends. Seeing it now may get her crossed off a list of possible recruits at some schools. OTOH, if someone in the sport was hiding under a rock for the past two weeks and did not see this, it wouldn't matter

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I is also cute that we, the people involved in the sport, think that there is as much attention paid to our sport as we think there is.
Been telling the carrot chasers and "my daughter is going to play in the Olympics group this for years. It is a much smaller world than many of those in the sport realize, however this incident was covered by media outside the sport which certainly doesn't help.

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In a year, this girl will be sitting in the third row of athletes behind a table signing her letter with a bunch of , Football, and basketball players in the spot light and no one will even know who she is, let alone what she did in a game on the internet during two plays.
Well, I doubt that since they don't necessarily share the same dates.
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Old Mon Jun 15, 2015, 12:25pm
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This was in the local paper concerning the player:

After a video of her apparently elbowing opponents went viral this week, catcher Megan Crosby has been disciplined by the Needville Independent School District.

Crosby's penalty wasn't specified, but Needville ISD superintendent Curt Rhodes said disciplinary action has been taken against Crosby, who just completed her junior year, for her actions during the Class 4A softball final against Huffman Hargrave. Huffman won the game 6-4.

"This action, which is two isolated incidents, is truly out of her character. We do not support the action, but she is a great young lady,” Rhodes said in a statement. “We strongly support our students and coaches; they are very talented, dedicated people.”

Neither school district has contacted the UIL as far as seeking any sort of punishment. Rhodes did notify the league however, to inform officials of the statement he released.

Rhodes said Crosby has received hate-filled communications and even threats.
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Old Mon Jun 15, 2015, 12:50pm
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..."This action, which is two isolated incidents, is truly out of her character. ... she is a great young lady,”...
So, even the superintendent of schools does not understand sportsmanship.

She did this twice in the same game. These were not "two isolated incidents". (The very phrase is an oxymoron.)

As the late Haywood Hale Broun said, (OK, you know what he said...). This catcher's character was sufficiently revealed.
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Old Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:27pm
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This was in the local paper concerning the player:

After a video of her apparently elbowing opponents went viral this week, catcher Megan Crosby has been disciplined by the Needville Independent School District.

Crosby's penalty wasn't specified, but Needville ISD superintendent Curt Rhodes said disciplinary action has been taken against Crosby, who just completed her junior year, for her actions during the Class 4A softball final against Huffman Hargrave. Huffman won the game 6-4.

"This action, which is two isolated incidents, is truly out of her character. We do not support the action, but she is a great young lady,” Rhodes said in a statement. “We strongly support our students and coaches; they are very talented, dedicated people.”

Neither school district has contacted the UIL as far as seeking any sort of punishment. Rhodes did notify the league however, to inform officials of the statement he released.

Rhodes said Crosby has received hate-filled communications and even threats.
I have a few comments on this.

First, in regards to the quote from the superintendent of the district. "This action, which is two isolated incidents, is truly out of her character. We do not support the action, but she is a great young lady,”

It would not shock me one bit if off the softball diamond she is a great person. I have known a lot of people who in non-competitive situations were great people, but when they were out on that field or court, they became completely different people. It was part of what made them successful, but at the same time, they risked doing something that everyone would see as a dirty play. Some of my best friends were not the cleanest players in their sport. Would they intentionally hurt someone? No, but at the same time, if you left a bit bruised and battered, they were not disappointed. I suspect this young lady is very similar. Off the field she is a nice person, on the field she is a b. The old saying nice guys finish last does have some validity. It takes some fire to be successful and she crossed the line and deserved to be ejected and punished for her actions.

Now, onto the second portion of the article.

"Rhodes said Crosby has received hate-filled communications and even threats." I have a much bigger issue with this than I do with the inaction of the umpires or the stupid decision making of the catcher, or the fact I think this came from the coach, as there was the dirty slide by another member of the team as well.

These threats were not coming from other teenagers, many were coming from adults from what I've heard. Yes her actions were stupid, but do they deserve threats from adults that have required the police to be called to the family home on multiple occasions? I don't think so. I'm not so sure who had the more childish actions here, the catcher or some adults who have acted much stupider.
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Old Mon Jun 15, 2015, 04:09pm
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Well, I doubt that since they don't necessarily share the same dates.[/QUOTE]

Whether the dates are the same or not, the point I was trying to make will be the same.
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