Good 'you make the call' traveling video

[ballgame99]

Found this on Youtube and thought it was helpful.

Travel or Not Part 8: You Make the Calls - YouTube

[APG]

Embedding for convenience:

[just another ref]

I have a big problem with a couple of these "legal" plays.

[jTheUmp]

Would you care to elaborate?

[just another ref]

The "psuedo" jump stop followed by the true jump stop. He gathers the ball with one foot on the floor, then jumps and lands on the other foot, then jumps again and lands on both. When you jump off one foot and land on the other, that alone is a travel, no matter what happens afterward.

On the behind the back move he catches the ball with one foot on the floor, then simply passes the ball from one hand to the other while taking two more steps.

[fiasco]

I have no idea what a "psuedo" jump stop is supposed to mean. How about just sticking to the rule book definition of a jump stop.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I have no idea what a "psuedo" jump stop is supposed to mean. How about just sticking to the rule book definition of a jump stop.

Where is that definition listed in the book?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I have a big problem with a couple of these "legal" plays.

I didn't see any legal ones that were a problem.

There was one "illegal" one that was debatable....where they declared the player had a pivot foot and lifted it before releasing the dribble. I'm not so sure the pivot foot had been established to start with since a pivot foot doesn't exist until the other foot touches in a step.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The "psuedo" jump stop followed by the true jump stop. He gathers the ball with one foot on the floor, then jumps and lands on the other foot, then jumps again and lands on both. When you jump off one foot and land on the other, that alone is a travel, no matter what happens afterward.

No, it's not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The "psuedo" jump stop followed by the true jump stop. He gathers the ball with one foot on the floor, then jumps and lands on the other foot, then jumps again and lands on both. When you jump off one foot and land on the other, that alone is a travel, no matter what happens afterward.

On the behind the back move he catches the ball with one foot on the floor, then simply passes the ball from one hand to the other while taking two more steps.

Disagree. He gathered with both feet in the air, landed on one foot, and jumped off that foot landing on both.
On the behind the back move, he gathers with his feet in the air. It's a layup from there.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The "psuedo" jump stop followed by the true jump stop. He gathers the ball with one foot on the floor, then jumps and lands on the other foot, then jumps again and lands on both. When you jump off one foot and land on the other, that alone is a travel, no matter what happens afterward.

On the behind the back move he catches the ball with one foot on the floor, then simply passes the ball from one hand to the other while taking two more steps.

I suggest you watch the plays again....the slow motion replay helps. Neither of those were as you describe them.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, it's not.

Example?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Example?

Almost any layup is an example of "jumping off one foot and landing on the other" that is not a travel.

Your statement is true only when jumping of the non-pivot foot and landing on the pivot foot -- and that's relatively rare.

[jeschmit]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't see any legal ones that were a problem.

There was one "illegal" one that was debatable....where they declared the player had a pivot foot and lifted it before releasing the dribble. I'm not so sure the pivot foot had been established to start with since a pivot foot doesn't exist until the other foot touches in a step.

I was thinking the same thing with that play. The rest I thought were pretty good.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by camron rust

i didn't see any legal ones that were a problem.

There was one "illegal" one that was debatable....where they declared the player had a pivot foot and lifted it before releasing the dribble. I'm not so sure the pivot foot had been established to start with since a pivot foot doesn't exist until the other foot touches in a step.

+1