Unsure Ump on D3k

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

Umpires placed runner in jeopardy by never making a call. Placed defense in jeopardy as well. Rectify the situation as best as possible.

I disagree 100%. The only way an umpired placed the runner in jeopardy here is if someone signaled an out. This batter-runner is out regardless of whether the ball was caught or not ... either by strikeout or by LBR.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I disagree 100%. The only way an umpired placed the runner in jeopardy here is if someone signaled an out. This batter-runner is out regardless of whether the ball was caught or not ... either by strikeout or by LBR.

The umpires completely F-ed up. Don't hold the players to a higher standard than the umpires. Fix the situation. Two wrongs don't equal an out.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

The umpires completely F-ed up. Don't hold the players to a higher standard than the umpires. Fix the situation. Two wrongs don't equal an out.

Really? The umpires (assuming they didn't say "batter out" or signal that batter out) did not do anything to cause anything that put anyone in jeopardy. Unless they indicated in some manner that the BR was out - there was no reason other than poor coaching or dumb baserunning for her to step off after the ball was back in the pitching circle.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Really? The umpires (assuming they didn't say "batter out" or signal that batter out) did not do anything to cause anything that put anyone in jeopardy. Unless they indicated in some manner that the BR was out - there was no reason other than poor coaching or dumb baserunning for her to step off after the ball was back in the pitching circle.

Agreed. For those that say this was on the umpires, please explain what - exactly - they DID wrong during the play itself.

The blank stares after the coach asked about D3K did not affect the play.

If the PU did definitively declared the batter out, then that would be a changed call, but the OP made no mention of that.

Again, what did they do wrong during the play that affected the play of either team?

I'm waiting....

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Really? The umpires (assuming they didn't say "batter out" or signal that batter out) did not do anything to cause anything that put anyone in jeopardy. Unless they indicated in some manner that the BR was out - there was no reason other than poor coaching or dumb baserunning for her to step off after the ball was back in the pitching circle.

I'm not saying that the player and coach aren't partially to blame. But let's not forget that umpires are paid to make decision on things that others wouldn't agree on or wouldn't see in the first place. Umpires are supposed to be communicators, communicating the information that others don't have. That didn't happen here. They umpires completely failed in their duties. They had one thing to get right and they stood there doing nothing.

Note: I've found that umpires who fail to take control in situations like these are the same ones who holler "TIME" to brush off 2nd base after a steal or scream "FOOOOUL BALL" on a liner to the backstop. Officiate when you need to officiate. This was a time to officiate.

[MD Longhorn]

I think you're missing my point.

What, exactly, did the umpire do to mislead anyone. "Nothing" is what they were supposed to do. No one out at home - no call of out by PU. No play at 1st. No call by BU.

Where is the misleading? Indecision AFTER the player stepped off did not cause the player to step off.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by md longhorn

...what, exactly, did the umpire do to mislead anyone. "nothing" is what they were supposed to do. No one out at home - no call of out by pu. No play at 1st. No call by bu.

Where is the misleading? Indecision after the player stepped off did not cause the player to step off.

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