The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 09:53am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 101
Well, I got evaluated on Sunday in an exhibition game at a players development camp. Several things went wrong, of course, one being distracted by a base ump that was not signalling any outs or safes (that's a long story in itself ... I'll spare you that one).

Bases loaded, no outs ... I signal to the base ump that the infield fly is a possibility ... base ump actually responds appropriately.

Pow! Big hit ... looks like it's going well into left field !!

Brain thinks " Hey, wait a moment, that looks like it might be an infield fly !!! No, it was hit way too hard. Yikes, the wind is holding the ball up over the shortstop !! Call it !! Call it !!! "

Vocal section fails to listen to brain. Ball drops next to SS. Play continues. Players/coaches seem oblivious.

I look to Mr. Evaluator, hoping to beg forgiveness but he is busy writing me up!!!

(And, of course, the obligatory nasty note about failing to wear those official $90 umpire pants.)

Talking to some other umps that day, several had similar stories about bad decisions on infield flies ... some funny ones about yelling out messed up versions of "Infield Fly, if fair batter is out!"

Sympathy, please.



__________________
bobbrix
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 10:51am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally posted by bobbrix
Well, I got evaluated on Sunday in an exhibition game at a players development camp. Several things went wrong, of course, one being distracted by a base ump that was not signalling any outs or safes (that's a long story in itself ... I'll spare you that one).

Bases loaded, no outs ... I signal to the base ump that the infield fly is a possibility ... base ump actually responds appropriately.

Pow! Big hit ... looks like it's going well into left field !!

Brain thinks " Hey, wait a moment, that looks like it might be an infield fly !!! No, it was hit way too hard. Yikes, the wind is holding the ball up over the shortstop !! Call it !! Call it !!! "

Vocal section fails to listen to brain. Ball drops next to SS. Play continues. Players/coaches seem oblivious.

I look to Mr. Evaluator, hoping to beg forgiveness but he is busy writing me up!!!

(And, of course, the obligatory nasty note about failing to wear those official $90 umpire pants.)

Talking to some other umps that day, several had similar stories about bad decisions on infield flies ... some funny ones about yelling out messed up versions of "Infield Fly, if fair batter is out!"

Sympathy, please.
It should be noted if you are not in the proper uniform, but anyone paying $90 for pants should be written up!

This scenario presents a few possibilities. Number one, the fact that it landed near the SS without being caught may be an indication that this particular batted ball could not be caught with ordinary effort by the SS.

Second, this is a correctable situation. As long as you do it before the next pitch, you can still rule that BR out. It takes a little humility, but it is the proper call. You didn't mention whether any runners were ruled out, so I will not enter the "in jeopardy" area recently discussed in another thread.

As an umpire, I don't care what order it is said as long as the words "infield fly", "if fair" and "out" are included in the call.

__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 11:20am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 101
$90 canadian = ~$64 american ... i should have noted that ... what would "you american folks" pay for official umpire pants ????

(i do wear dark blue pants, just not official official ones)


yes, i failed to correct the call, too

yes, even with the wind, it ended up an ordinary effort fly ball

yes, the SS picked up the ball and threw the runner out at 3rd base ... again, other that me and the evaluator, no one seemed to be aware of the missed call

just blew it altogether ... shameful

__________________
bobbrix
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 11:35am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally posted by bobbrix
$90 canadian = ~$64 american ... i should have noted that ... what would "you american folks" pay for official umpire pants ????

(i do wear dark blue pants, just not official official ones)


yes, i failed to correct the call, too

yes, even with the wind, it ended up an ordinary effort fly ball

yes, the SS picked up the ball and threw the runner out at 3rd base ... again, other that me and the evaluator, no one seemed to be aware of the missed call

just blew it altogether ... shameful

$45 plus alterations and defication occurs. We all make mistakes. All we can do is learn from them.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 05:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 374
Send a message via AIM to Elaine Send a message via Yahoo to Elaine
Red face

Quote:
Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Quote:
Originally posted by bobbrix
$90 canadian = ~$64 american ... i should have noted that ... what would "you american folks" pay for official umpire pants ????

(i do wear dark blue pants, just not official official ones)


yes, i failed to correct the call, too

yes, even with the wind, it ended up an ordinary effort fly ball

yes, the SS picked up the ball and threw the runner out at 3rd base ... again, other that me and the evaluator, no one seemed to be aware of the missed call

just blew it altogether ... shameful

$45 plus alterations and defication occurs. We all make mistakes. All we can do is learn from them.
Mike.....
I've finally got you on something--LOL, it's defecation not
defication.
__________________
Elaine
"Lady Blue"
Metro Atlanta ASA (retired)
Georgia High School NFHS (retired)
Mom of former Travel Player
National Indicator Fraternity 1995
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 05:55pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,474
Cool Where is the spell checker

when you need it?
__________________
"There are no superstar calls. We don't root for certain teams. We don't cheat. But sometimes we just miss calls." - Joe Crawford
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed Aug 27, 2003, 09:41pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Re: Where is the spell checker

Quote:
Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
when you need it?
Next time, I'll just say ****.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 12:01am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Re: Re: Where is the spell checker

Quote:
Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Quote:
Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
when you need it?
Next time, I'll just say ****.
That's OK, Mike, it's just confirmation of what you said... happens.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 08:41am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
pants, not "official"

$30 at Sears, plus alteration to take in the waist.

Still don't know what makes them "official" or "base pants".
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 10:24am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Re: pants, not

Quote:
Originally posted by CecilOne
Still don't know what makes them "official" or "base pants".
It's more difficult with heather gray than navy, but not impossible. Heather gray is not the usual dress pant gray color. I don't know what difference that really makes, since my "heather" gray pants are only the official color under the belt now, anyway - the sun takes care of that pretty quickly.

However, I have seen some umpires who wear off-the-rack pants that just look vastly out of place. They are obviously NOT uniform pants.

I can say there is a noticeable difference in thickness of fabric, tailoring for athletic use (i.e. seams that can "take it", lots of wide belt loops, etc.) between the Cliff Keen umpire pants and your typical K-Mart fare. The lengendary Fechheimers were even better.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 12:14pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 4,387
Re: Re: pants, not

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dakota
Quote:
The lengendary Fechheimers were even better.
Were? They are still around and still my favorite. The only thing that Fechheimer quit making are the combos....unless...

Do you know something I don't know?
__________________
Scott


It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 12:36pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Sorry for being overly general - I was referring to the combos.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 03:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
OK, I guess we locals just don't know as much as you nationals, or just aren't interested in our partners' pants (other than those semi-charcoal and almost royal blue things). I ordered a pair of navy from ASA once and I hate the waistband, so maybe that's when I got off the track.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 04:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: woodville, tx
Posts: 3,156
Re: pants, not

Quote:
Originally posted by CecilOne
$30 at Sears, plus alteration to take in the waist.

Still don't know what makes them "official" or "base pants".
I agree with Cecil-1-

The Sears pants are great. $30.00 regular price and
19.50 when on sale....Blue are grey normally will match
whatever your partner is wearing, unless he happends to
shop "Wally - World"

glen
__________________
glen _______________________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines.
Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover."
--Mark Twain.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Thu Aug 28, 2003, 10:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 4,387
I still feel that you cannot beat the "real" umpire pants for wear and tear, not to mention looks. To me it is worth the extra few bucks!
__________________
Scott


It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:34am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1