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bobbrix Wed Aug 27, 2003 09:53am

Well, I got evaluated on Sunday in an exhibition game at a players development camp. Several things went wrong, of course, one being distracted by a base ump that was not signalling any outs or safes (that's a long story in itself ... I'll spare you that one).

Bases loaded, no outs ... I signal to the base ump that the infield fly is a possibility ... base ump actually responds appropriately.

Pow! Big hit ... looks like it's going well into left field !!

Brain thinks " Hey, wait a moment, that looks like it might be an infield fly !!! No, it was hit way too hard. Yikes, the wind is holding the ball up over the shortstop !! Call it !! Call it !!! "

Vocal section fails to listen to brain. Ball drops next to SS. Play continues. Players/coaches seem oblivious.

I look to Mr. Evaluator, hoping to beg forgiveness but he is busy writing me up!!!

(And, of course, the obligatory nasty note about failing to wear those official $90 umpire pants.)

Talking to some other umps that day, several had similar stories about bad decisions on infield flies ... some funny ones about yelling out messed up versions of "Infield Fly, if fair batter is out!"

Sympathy, please.




IRISHMAFIA Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:51am

Quote:

Originally posted by bobbrix
Well, I got evaluated on Sunday in an exhibition game at a players development camp. Several things went wrong, of course, one being distracted by a base ump that was not signalling any outs or safes (that's a long story in itself ... I'll spare you that one).

Bases loaded, no outs ... I signal to the base ump that the infield fly is a possibility ... base ump actually responds appropriately.

Pow! Big hit ... looks like it's going well into left field !!

Brain thinks " Hey, wait a moment, that looks like it might be an infield fly !!! No, it was hit way too hard. Yikes, the wind is holding the ball up over the shortstop !! Call it !! Call it !!! "

Vocal section fails to listen to brain. Ball drops next to SS. Play continues. Players/coaches seem oblivious.

I look to Mr. Evaluator, hoping to beg forgiveness but he is busy writing me up!!!

(And, of course, the obligatory nasty note about failing to wear those official $90 umpire pants.)

Talking to some other umps that day, several had similar stories about bad decisions on infield flies ... some funny ones about yelling out messed up versions of "Infield Fly, if fair batter is out!"

Sympathy, please.

It should be noted if you are not in the proper uniform, but anyone paying $90 for pants should be written up! :)

This scenario presents a few possibilities. Number one, the fact that it landed near the SS without being caught may be an indication that this particular batted ball could not be caught with ordinary effort by the SS.

Second, this is a correctable situation. As long as you do it before the next pitch, you can still rule that BR out. It takes a little humility, but it is the proper call. You didn't mention whether any runners were ruled out, so I will not enter the "in jeopardy" area recently discussed in another thread.

As an umpire, I don't care what order it is said as long as the words "infield fly", "if fair" and "out" are included in the call.


bobbrix Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:20am

$90 canadian = ~$64 american ... i should have noted that ... what would "you american folks" pay for official umpire pants ????

(i do wear dark blue pants, just not official official ones)


yes, i failed to correct the call, too

yes, even with the wind, it ended up an ordinary effort fly ball

yes, the SS picked up the ball and threw the runner out at 3rd base ... again, other that me and the evaluator, no one seemed to be aware of the missed call

just blew it altogether ... shameful


IRISHMAFIA Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:35am

Quote:

Originally posted by bobbrix
$90 canadian = ~$64 american ... i should have noted that ... what would "you american folks" pay for official umpire pants ????

(i do wear dark blue pants, just not official official ones)


yes, i failed to correct the call, too

yes, even with the wind, it ended up an ordinary effort fly ball

yes, the SS picked up the ball and threw the runner out at 3rd base ... again, other that me and the evaluator, no one seemed to be aware of the missed call

just blew it altogether ... shameful


$45 plus alterations and defication occurs. We all make mistakes. All we can do is learn from them.

Elaine "Lady Blue" Wed Aug 27, 2003 05:00pm

Quote:

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Quote:

Originally posted by bobbrix
$90 canadian = ~$64 american ... i should have noted that ... what would "you american folks" pay for official umpire pants ????

(i do wear dark blue pants, just not official official ones)


yes, i failed to correct the call, too

yes, even with the wind, it ended up an ordinary effort fly ball

yes, the SS picked up the ball and threw the runner out at 3rd base ... again, other that me and the evaluator, no one seemed to be aware of the missed call

just blew it altogether ... shameful


$45 plus alterations and defication occurs. We all make mistakes. All we can do is learn from them.

Mike.....
I've finally got you on something--LOL, it's defecation not
defication.

DownTownTonyBrown Wed Aug 27, 2003 05:55pm

Where is the spell checker
 
when you need it?

IRISHMAFIA Wed Aug 27, 2003 09:41pm

Re: Where is the spell checker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
when you need it?
Next time, I'll just say ****.

Dakota Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:01am

Re: Re: Where is the spell checker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Quote:

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
when you need it?
Next time, I'll just say ****.

That's OK, Mike, it's just confirmation of what you said... http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...ckepieksen.gif happens.

CecilOne Thu Aug 28, 2003 08:41am

pants, not "official"
 
$30 at Sears, plus alteration to take in the waist.

Still don't know what makes them "official" or "base pants".

Dakota Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:24am

Re: pants, not
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CecilOne
Still don't know what makes them "official" or "base pants".
It's more difficult with heather gray than navy, but not impossible. Heather gray is not the usual dress pant gray color. I don't know what difference that really makes, since my "heather" gray pants are only the official color under the belt now, anyway - the sun takes care of that pretty quickly.

However, I have seen some umpires who wear off-the-rack pants that just look vastly out of place. They are obviously NOT uniform pants.

I can say there is a noticeable difference in thickness of fabric, tailoring for athletic use (i.e. seams that can "take it", lots of wide belt loops, etc.) between the Cliff Keen umpire pants and your typical K-Mart fare. The lengendary Fechheimers were even better.

Skahtboi Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:14pm

Re: Re: pants, not
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dakota
Quote:

The lengendary Fechheimers were even better.
Were? They are still around and still my favorite. The only thing that Fechheimer quit making are the combos....unless...

Do you know something I don't know?

Dakota Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:36pm

Sorry for being overly general - I was referring to the combos.

CecilOne Thu Aug 28, 2003 03:28pm

OK, I guess we locals just don't know as much as you nationals, or just aren't interested in our partners' pants (other than those semi-charcoal and almost royal blue things). I ordered a pair of navy from ASA once and I hate the waistband, so maybe that's when I got off the track.

whiskers_ump Thu Aug 28, 2003 04:32pm

Re: pants, not
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CecilOne
$30 at Sears, plus alteration to take in the waist.

Still don't know what makes them "official" or "base pants".

I agree with Cecil-1-

The Sears pants are great. $30.00 regular price and
19.50 when on sale....Blue are grey normally will match
whatever your partner is wearing, unless he happends to
shop "Wally - World"

glen

Skahtboi Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:08pm

I still feel that you cannot beat the "real" umpire pants for wear and tear, not to mention looks. To me it is worth the extra few bucks!


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