Awards on balls that go out of play.

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ASA.....No force. Close tag play at 2nd....ball is knocked from defense's misplay or glove and goes out of play it's an award based on when it goes out of play.....correct?

On the same play, the ball hits the sliding runner in the back and goes out of play. Is this considered a tag play even though the defense never touched the ball? Is the award different here because it was a thrown ball?

What if the ball hit the base and bounced out of play? No one touched it? Different award?

I'm think'n they could be all considered tag plays cuz that's what the play started out being.

Give it to me!!

[Manny A]

A ball in a defensive player's possession that subsequently goes out of play because the player lost control of it (e.g., ball kicked out of his/her glove on a tag), the award is one base from when the ball enters DBT (8-5-G Exception 1; Rule Supp 38).

A thrown ball that deflects off a fielder, runner, umpire, base, etc., and goes into DBT is a two-base award from the time of throw. (8-5-G).

I'm now not too sure what happens when a runner accidentally kicks a loose ball into DBT. For example, sharp ball to F5 who can only deflect it behind her, and R2 slides into third and inadvertently kicks the ball under a gap in the fence. Or a throw that eludes F5, and again R2 slides into third and same thing. I believe it's only one base.

[Andy]

I think this is what you are looking for:

ASA 8-5-G (paraphrase)

Runners are awarded two bases from the time of the throw when a live ball is overthrown or is blocked. Overthrown is defined as entering dead ball territory.

If a fielder loses possession of the ball, and the ball leaves live ball territory or is blocked, the runner gets one base from the time the ball enters dead ball territory or is blocked.

The key is the status of the ball, not whether it is a tag play or not.

[xamrude]

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