ASA 2015 Rule Changes

[youngump]

Originally Posted by Andy

• Offensive Substitutes: Players not listed as a starting player, first 9 spot in the batting order, may be used as a substitute on offense like a pinch runner. The batting order will not be changed and the re-entry rule would still be in effect. EXAMPLE: Batter number 4 gets a hit and batter 12 goes in to pinch run. Batter 4 has left the game and batter 12 has entered the game. They still bat in positions 4 and 12 as they originally did. Re-entry rule still in effect.

This is going to be a mess... and to make it even more fun it's a mess that we're only going to see in championship play which means that we won't be at all ready for it. And so it'll all get made up on the fly.
They better make a ruling for what happens when the girl due up is on base and they better make a rule for when you can pull her off base to solve that situation. For example, B10 is on base when B9 strikes out. If B10 is to be skipped can they then put B11 in for B10 or is it too late for that? Same question if B10 is to be out.
Now when they put B15 in for B10 has B10 left the game. By the logic above B10 wasn't in the game so how can she leave the game? Or can one only pinch run for the starting nine?

Editing to add one more: 15 players available, 14 listed on the lineup. B14 reaches 1st. S15 replaces B14. S15 steals Second and Third and then B1 reaches on a single scoring S15. S15 now pinch runs for B1. Legal?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by youngump

This is going to be a mess... and to make it even more fun it's a mess that we're only going to see in championship play which means that we won't be at all ready for it. And so it'll all get made up on the fly.
They better make a ruling for what happens when the girl due up is on base and they better make a rule for when you can pull her off base to solve that situation. For example, B10 is on base when B9 strikes out. If B10 is to be skipped can they then put B11 in for B10 or is it too late for that?

There is already a precedent for such a rule. It is in 8.9.C.2. This will probably be the ruling for such a situation.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

There is already a precedent for such a rule. It is in 8.9.C.2. This will probably be the ruling for such a situation.

Sort of, the problem is that you can't buy yourself out of a 8.9.C.2 out by courtesy running for your courtesy runner (because of 8.9.C.4 which is what justifies the latter part of C2). But you could get yourself out of a substitution problem with a switch if you did it before the out. But what about right when that spot is due up.

[xtremeump]

POOL-PLAY !!!!! Championship Play is Book Rule.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by xtremeump

POOL-PLAY !!!!! Championship Play is Book Rule.

Seems like Championship Play becomes the exception now.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Seems like Championship Play becomes the exception now.

Like it or note, Pool Play is championship play

[xtremeump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Like it or note, Pool Play is championship play

Pool Play are the games you play to get seeded for elimination games ��. Pool play is what this Rule is for, when you go to a Tournament where there are 60 (16)U teams playing, some teams try to beat the system by not winning on purpose. Then as Mr. Irish said they are playing elimination Games. Game On Then Book Rule. Really not a big deal, at the better Tournaments Teams only have at most 10 or 11 players. And I do Like it ��

[CecilOne]

Whatever number you start with must remain the same unless you lose players as mentioned in the rule.

This should say
"Whatever number OF BATTING POSITIONS STARTED WITH",
not
"Whatever number you start with"
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EXAMPLE: If you start with 12 batters you cannot increase to 13 batters or decrease to 11 batters.

This should say
"batting positions" not "batters"
to avoid confusion with the shorthanded rule and possibly with DP/FLEX.