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Old Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:14pm
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I would think the more pertinent question might be what is the LL rule? Is there no definition of legal headwear?

Most softball rule sets (ASA, NCAA, NFHS) have that definition; ball caps, visors, headbands. Most specify that handkerchiefs/bandanas and plastic visors are illegal. Not jewelry or an adornment, a defined (albeit optional) uniform part.
1.11 (a ) (1) All players on a team shall wear numbered uniforms identical in color, trim and style. The wearing of hats or visors is optional for each player while on defense.

That's it. You'd have to decide that the bandana was jewelry.

1.11 (j) Players must not wear jewelry such as, but not limited to, rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces, nor any hard cosmetic/decorative items. This applies regardless of the composition of such jewelry, hard cosmetic item or hard decorative item. EXCEPTION: Jewelry that alerts medical personnel to a specific condition is permissible.

Never seen a hard bandana.

The rules instruction manual makes a referfece to the joke (their word) about anything you weren't born with.
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Old Thu Aug 14, 2014, 11:01pm
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1.11 (a ) (1) All players on a team shall wear numbered uniforms identical in color, trim and style. The wearing of hats or visors is optional for each player while on defense.

That's it. You'd have to decide that the bandana was jewelry.

1.11 (j) Players must not wear jewelry such as, but not limited to, rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces, nor any hard cosmetic/decorative items. This applies regardless of the composition of such jewelry, hard cosmetic item or hard decorative item. EXCEPTION: Jewelry that alerts medical personnel to a specific condition is permissible.

Never seen a hard bandana.

The rules instruction manual makes a referfece to the joke (their word) about anything you weren't born with.
OK, so it is your interpretation of 1.11 (a) that anything worn on the head that isn't jewelry is optional, that it isn't limited to hats and visors?

Suppose a player chose to place a beehive, complete with bees on her head. Since it isn't jewelry, nor a hard item, you would allow that, right? How about a paper plate with a banana and peanut butter sandwich? Or a Mexican sombrero; that's a hat, right, so she can wear it? Star Wars stormtrooper helmet?

Yeah, certainly extreme, and even foolish examples. But if you have no line drawn anywhere, then they should all be allowable. Unless you read 1.11 (a) to limit what is legal headwear.
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Old Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:07am
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OK, so it is your interpretation of 1.11 (a) that anything worn on the head that isn't jewelry is optional, that it isn't limited to hats and visors?

Suppose a player chose to place a beehive, complete with bees on her head. Since it isn't jewelry, nor a hard item, you would allow that, right? How about a paper plate with a banana and peanut butter sandwich? Or a Mexican sombrero; that's a hat, right, so she can wear it? Star Wars stormtrooper helmet?

Yeah, certainly extreme, and even foolish examples. But if you have no line drawn anywhere, then they should all be allowable. Unless you read 1.11 (a) to limit what is legal headwear.
HS bans bandanas because they were/are considered gang related. I don't think LL has the same concerns.

The sombrero's a hat isn't it? If that's the team hat then it'd be OK.

Remember a few years ago when a HS track team somewhere got DQed because their sports bras did match?

No comment on not wearing anything you weren't born wearing - like clothes?

Sometimes people get way too anal about things of no consequence.
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Old Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:13am
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1.11 (a ) (1) All players on a team shall wear numbered uniforms identical in color, trim and style. The wearing of hats or visors is optional for each player while on defense.

That's it. You'd have to decide that the bandana was jewelry.

1.11 (j) Players must not wear jewelry such as, but not limited to, rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces, nor any hard cosmetic/decorative items. This applies regardless of the composition of such jewelry, hard cosmetic item or hard decorative item. EXCEPTION: Jewelry that alerts medical personnel to a specific condition is permissible.

Never seen a hard bandana.

The rules instruction manual makes a referfece to the joke (their word) about anything you weren't born with.
Anything with a knot is "hard".
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Old Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:11am
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Anything with a knot is "hard".
Not any harder than a braid in the hair. Gonna ban braids?
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